Apotheoun Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 Who? What? Nadab and Abihu were two of Aaron's sons and priests of the Old Covenant. They offered incense to God with strange (unauthorized) fire, and in response the Lord sent the divine fire of His presence down from heaven and both of them were burned to death in the sanctuary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Nadab and Abihu were two of Aaron's sons and priests of the Old Covenant. They offered incense to God with strange (unauthorized) fire, and in response the Lord sent the divine fire of His presence down from heaven and both of them were burned to death in the sanctuary. I would prefer to interpret such passages allegorically. However, it's not surprising to see so many people indignant that even the slightest hint of joy or happiness should be allowed to corrupt the formulaic monotony of the Mass. After all, its not what's in our hearts that matters, but whether or not certain rituals are performed with the prescribed clothing, ritual objects, and of course using the right hand gestures. If any of these were to change, the impersonal magic that gives said rituals their efficacy would be lost - or so it would seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Is this argument for real, or are you presenting it to make the opposite point? If the latter, well done. If the former, you cray cray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Is this argument for real, or are you presenting it to make the opposite point? If the latter, well done. If the former, you cray cray. No, I'm being ironic. I don't think this was a super-good idea, but it's nothing to facepalm over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 why isn't it a super good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 why isn't it a super good idea? Well, it's possible that, if you make the Mass too playful, young people might not take it seriously. But I don't think this priests intentions were bad, and in fact I think they were probably pretty good. But I think there are probably better ways to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 what amount of playful would be acceptable to you? (i assume since you say 'too playful', there must be an amount of acceptable playfulness) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Well, I don't know. I'm not even sure this guy went too far neccesarily. I guess it would be up to the individual Bishop to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 oh, so he asked his Bishop and his Bishop gave him permission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 oh, so he asked his Bishop and his Bishop gave him permission? I don't know, but I do know that I had a similar sort of youth Mass when I was in high school, and they always ended it by saying "The Mass never ends - it must be lived" until the Diocese told them they had to say the proper "The Mass is ended - let us go in peace to love and serve the lord." So I assume the Diocese and the Bishop would decide such matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I didn't read in the article that the priest got approval from his bishop. I would assume they would have included that. One thing I noticed is that you kinda 'hemmed and hawed' about if this was acceptable.... First saying "I don't think this was a super-good idea", then saying, "I'm not even sure this guy went too far neccesarily.". Is there any sort of reference material about the Mass? Like a playbook, or a listing of the right order of things, or what is said when, or what is worn when, how, and by whom? If there is, shouldn't everyone reference it, and go by what it says? If there isn't, do you think it would be a good idea to make one and use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureSister2009 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 That has to be the dumbest thing ever. If he wants to wear Superheroes, he should be wearing the Crucifix. Jesus is the only Superhero those kids should be looking at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I think its really sad this priest believes these children are too stupid to grasp what Mass is all about. He probably feels like most Protestants (and some Catholics do) that people need to be entertained in order to find worshipping God worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) I don't want to fight with anyone, so I'll just withdraw anything I've said, since I'm probably in the wrong anyway. Edited March 25, 2013 by Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Nadab and Abihu were two of Aaron's sons and priests of the Old Covenant. They offered incense to God with strange (unauthorized) fire, and in response the Lord sent the divine fire of His presence down from heaven and both of them were burned to death in the sanctuary. I think I would take my chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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