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OK, my head is going to explode!

 

A priest at a local parish in Los Angeles, seems to be an advocate for many things that are against the teachings and is extremely active on a site called Change.org.

 

Using his real name he is signing petitions (over the course of years) that support boycotts of the Boy Scouts unless they allow gays, petitioning shows (Dancing With The Stars) to allow same sex couples as well as some little boy who wants to dress like a girl to be accepted at their school. Dozens of signings for same sex marriage, LGBT support, etc. Even signing petitions to protect Planned Parenthood and those seeking to stop "personhood laws."

 

What does one do with this information? How can such a person be so brazen? 

 

Is this something one should make the Diocese aware of? The Pastor? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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KnightofChrist

OK, my head is going to explode!

 

A priest at a local parish in Los Angeles, seems to be an advocate for many things that are against the teachings and is extremely active on a site called Change.org.

 

Using his real name he is signing petitions (over the course of years) that support boycotts of the Boy Scouts unless they allow gays, petitioning shows (Dancing With The Stars) to allow same sex couples as well as some little boy who wants to dress like a girl to be accepted at their school. Dozens of signings for same sex marriage, LGBT support, etc. Even signing petitions to protect Planned Parenthood and those seeking to stop "personhood laws."

 

What does one do with this information? How can such a person be so brazen? 

 

Is this something one should make the Diocese aware of? The Pastor? 

 

Write your Bishop respectfully informing him of your priest's actions, or find another parish.
 

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KnightofChrist

I would say that it's none of your business.

 

I would agree, perhaps, if it were not a Priest, and his actions were not very public. This will cause scandal among the faithful. If Father really wants to support these things he should resign first.
 

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Fidei Defensor

I would agree, perhaps, if it were not a Priest, and his actions were not very public. This will cause scandal among the faithful. If Father really wants to support these things he should resign first.
 

I can agree that writing the Bishop is acceptable. But beyond that, its in the Bishop's hands.

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I was in your position with a catholic club leader(they were not running it like they were suppose to) and I did write my bishop and promptly left the group. SO I agree with the other on this issue.

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Believe me, I wish it wasn't shared with me. But it has, and to simply turn a blind eye can't be the way either.

 

 

I would say that it's none of your business.

 

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Believe me, I wish it wasn't shared with me. But it has, and to simply turn a blind eye can't be the way either.

Write to the bishop, but do not expect any kind of response.

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KnightofChrist

I can agree that writing the Bishop is acceptable. But beyond that, its in the Bishop's hands.

 

If one does not believe basics of the Faith should they belong to the Faith? If one is a Priest and they very publicly reject or oppose the Faith should they serve as a Priest?

 

You are a perfect example of honesty and not being in conflict, not trying to serve two masters. That is you don't believe or majorly doubt basics of the Faith, but you are honest and do not try and to pretend to be something you are not.

 

The Priest should stop publicly supporting causes that are in direct opposition to Church teaching or he should stop serving as a priest.

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Why cant gays join Boy Scouts?

Are we to prevent them from shopping in the same grocery stores too? Or going to the same schools as straight people?

They also cant dance on tv?

 

:idontknow:

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While the Catholic church is opposed to homosexual marriage, I dont think we should lose sight of the fact that homosexuals are STILL people who deserve love and respect. I do not know how any of the things you are upset about the bishop supporting are in any way bad other than the fact the public display may lead people to think he also suppose homosexual marriage.

But even if that IS the case, I still do not see some immoral issues with homosexuals in Boy Scouts or being on TV for dancing with the stars.

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Why cant gays join Boy Scouts?

Are we to prevent them from shopping in the same grocery stores too? Or going to the same schools as straight people?

They also cant dance on tv?

 

:idontknow:

 

Yah the only problems I see are where he's supporting gay marriage, and Planned Parenthood. Keep it to that and focus on the Planned Parenthood part. That's really beyond the pale.
 

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The Church issued a document back in the early 1990s in which she said that it is not unjust to discriminate against persons based upon sexual orientation.

 

Here is the pertinent section of the text:

 

"Sexual orientation does not constitute a quality comparable to race, ethnic background, etc. in respect to non-discrimination. Unlike these, homosexual orientation is an objective disorder (cf. Letter, no. 3) and evokes moral concern. There are areas in which it is not unjust discrimination to take sexual orientation into account, for example, in the placement of children for adoption or foster care, in employment of teachers or athletic coaches, and in military recruitment. Homosexual persons, as human persons, have the same rights as all persons including the right of not being treated in a manner which offends their personal dignity (cf. no. 10). Among other rights, all persons have the right to work, to housing, etc. Nevertheless, these rights are not absolute. They can be legitimately limited for objectively disordered external conduct. This is sometimes not only licit but obligatory." [Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Instruction Some Considerations, nos. 10-12]

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Fidei Defensor

If one does not believe basics of the Faith should they belong to the Faith? If one is a Priest and they very publicly reject or oppose the Faith should they serve as a Priest?

 

You are a perfect example of honesty and not being in conflict, not trying to serve two masters. That is you don't believe or majorly doubt basics of the Faith, but you are honest and do not try and to pretend to be something you are not.

 

The Priest should stop publicly supporting causes that are in direct opposition to Church teaching or he should stop serving as a priest.

Ultimately, I agree with you. Serving two masters is not wise.  But beyond alerting the priest's superiors, the rest is left to them and to God.

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