Vaccinate And Why They Are Bad

[homeschoolmom]

We try to space our vax shots out. I believe there are too many vaxes in one shot/visit. It is not medical science that wife and I have a problem with, it is the immunization policies dictated. It is not a one-size-fits-all.

Fair enough.

[TheLordsSouljah]

Oh, and I'm getting my information from health practitioners and nutritionists. Been researching decades. Just sayin...... :)

[GregorMendel]

Haven't really read much of the thread, but totally don't believe in vaccinations. Many have actually never been proven to work. People have also been known to get things like short and long-sightedness because of vaccinations, and it is not uncommon. Will never get anyone I love vaccinated. Best thing for it is a strong immune system. Just my thoughts!! Pax :)

"Best thing for it is a strong immune system."

Please tell me youre just trolling.

That is Exactly how vaccination works. I cant believe it never came up in your discussions with a nutritionist.

Btw, is the "health practitioner" you speak of an optometrist? Because that is the Only way I can imagine your concerns of "short and long sightedness" (you mean near and farsightedness, right?) emerging, which a simple google search might clear up, along with any fears of non-functional vaccines being administered on a mass scale. Edited April 5, 2013 by GregorMendel

[elizabeth09]

Why are we getting so sick, then?  Vaccinations have proof that they do not work at all.

[Roamin Catholic]

Why are we getting so sick, then?  Vaccinations have proof that they do not work at all.

 

 

Really? 

 

I don't see many cases of the Measles, polio, smallpox, mumps, or rubella anymore...Want me to go on? 

[beatitude]

Oh, and I'm getting my information from health practitioners and nutritionists. Been researching decades. Just sayin...... :)

 

In most US states, the title of nutritionist isn't legally protected, which means anyone can start calling themselves one no matter how doubtful their actual knowledge and qualifications - whereas someone with genuine expertise in dietetics (which is a registered and regulated profession) would recognise that a dietetics qualification doesn't extend to a knowledge of the aetiology and prevention of contagious disease.

 

Also, I see from your profile that you're eighteen years old. How can you have been 'researching decades' when you haven't even been alive for two?

 

Elizabeth, as has been pointed out many times in this thread, people aren't getting sicker. In fact we've got a whole lot less sick. Certain diseases (e.g. TB and polio) have been all but stamped out in the developed world, thanks to vaccination.

[elizabeth09]

Our immune system are strong so that way we could have a change to fight it.  If you were a baby living in the 1700, then there was a slight change of getting better.  That is why they did not name their children until they were a year old.

[Roamin Catholic]

Our immune system are strong so that way we could have a change to fight it.  

 

 

prove that it is our immune systems and not the vaccines. 

[elizabeth09]

In most US states, the title of nutritionist isn't legally protected, which means anyone can start calling themselves one no matter how doubtful their actual knowledge and qualifications - whereas someone with genuine expertise in dietetics (which is a registered and regulated profession) would recognise that a dietetics qualification doesn't extend to a knowledge of the aetiology and prevention of contagious disease.

 

Also, I see from your profile that you're eighteen years old. How can you have been 'researching decades' when you haven't even been alive for two?

 

Elizabeth, as has been pointed out many times in this thread, people aren't getting sicker. In fact we've got a whole lot less sick. Certain diseases (e.g. TB and polio) have been all but stamped out in the developed world, thanks to vaccination.

 

First of all, people are getting hurt by vaccinations, like myself.  We will be heard. 

 

Second of all, we may not be getting sicker, but our immune systems need to fight something every so often. :flex:

(Check your math)

Edited April 5, 2013 by elizabeth09

[CrossCuT]

First of all, people are getting hurt by vaccinations, like myself.  We will be heard. 

 

Second of all, we may not be getting sicker, but our immune systems need to fight something every so often. :flex:

(Check your math)

 

I dont think we can have a good conversation about this until you do some research into the science and studies done that completely disprove the notion of vaccines being dangerous.

 

 

And also, you immune system DOES fight something with a vaccine. It fights the the specific foreign pathogen or proteins that are needed to create the correct antibodies. You arent given the REAL bug, but your given a deactivated one or certain parts of one that are enough to elicit the correct immune response. So your body is still fighting, just not the bad stuff.

[TheLordsSouljah]

Immune systems have nothing to do with vaccines. In theory, 'what doesn't kill you makes you stronger', but there are now vaccines for practically everything, and not everything works. Some people actually NEVER get over the vaccine, and don't get stronger. They're left weaker. My point is I'd rather let an immune system that is already strong and not possibly weakened tackle a disease when it comes. With so many strains of different diseases, to me there is no point. Every time you get a flu it's from a different strain. Your body has the antibodies for each one fought. 

 

No, I've not been researching for decades. They have. And I also live in Australia... but I don't want to get into a war, so I'mma not going to reply to this thread any more. I'm not passionate enough about it. Please don't take it personally, but I really don't want to loose the chance of making friends over an argument so trivial. God love you..... :) :D

[havok579257]

First of all, people are getting hurt by vaccinations, like myself.  We will be heard. 

 

Second of all, we may not be getting sicker, but our immune systems need to fight something every so often. :flex:

(Check your math)

 

so you think it would be good for us to get rubella?  Something that causes a high rate of miscarriages and birth defects.  That's something we should get to try to see how our immune systems can do against it?  Or how about polio?  Maybe its good for more people to be crippled by polio?

 

You must have no children.  Cause I can no see a sane mother or father saying it would be good for their children to be crippled by polio, have birth defects and death because of rubella and so on and so on.  Honestly your just not making any sense what so ever.  You have absolutly no facts to back up any of your claims.  That's what baffles me.  You have absolutely no scientific proof for your claims yet you try to pass them off as fact.  Honestly, for your sake, I hope you do not have children and choose not to vaccinate them.  Cause if they get some disease that vaccines could have avoided their premature death you will blame yourself the rest of your life for your childrens death.  Your not even making valid arguements with facts to back them up.  Until you do, this debate is pointless because you refuse to listen to not only reason but scientific fact.

[havok579257]

Immune systems have nothing to do with vaccines. In theory, 'what doesn't kill you makes you stronger', but there are now vaccines for practically everything, and not everything works. Some people actually NEVER get over the vaccine, and don't get stronger. They're left weaker. My point is I'd rather let an immune system that is already strong and not possibly weakened tackle a disease when it comes. With so many strains of different diseases, to me there is no point. Every time you get a flu it's from a different strain. Your body has the antibodies for each one fought. 

 

No, I've not been researching for decades. They have. And I also live in Australia... but I don't want to get into a war, so I'mma not going to reply to this thread any more. I'm not passionate enough about it. Please don't take it personally, but I really don't want to loose the chance of making friends over an argument so trivial. God love you..... :) :D

 

How did our immune systems deal with polio, german measles, hep b in the past?  It killed so many people.  If your theroy of our immune systems being able to beat the diseases then how come until vaccines came around these diseases ravaged populations?

[Archaeology cat]

Havok, just so you know, rubella is generally mild, and polio is usually asymptomatic. Now, those diseases can of course be serious, which should be taken into account, but neither is an absolute death sentence. By all means get the vaccines if you wish, but there's no need to be more alarmist than necessary.

Once again, while some choose not to vaccinate based on misinformation or paranoia, some forgo some or all vaccines for a variety of other reasons, and it's insulting to paint all with one brush. Just as it is also insulting to say those who vaccinate are doing so out of ignorance. Whatever decision you make, research using credible sources. Let's all be charitable, please. This can be a charged topic, and it behooves us all to speak in charity and to try seeing where the other person is coming from.

God bless

[homeschoolmom]

 Let's all be charitable, please. This can be a charged topic, and it behooves us all to speak in charity and to try seeing where the other person is coming from.

God bless

Best post in the thread. Thank you.