Evangetholic Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Y'all's be so SURIOUS. :| You sound like me. :( It's ok. They'll stop being scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Y'all's be so SURIOUS. :| Shall I take this to mean that this: I think there's something in the Bible about not lying, too. HMMMMMMM... was simply empty insinuation on your part? Because it is fine if it was, I just want that to be clear. I am indeed serious in what I said. If I have lied, please point it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Y'all's be so SURIOUS. :| Ssrly though, who's lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) I think there's something in the Bible about not lying, too. HMMMMMMM... Of course it does. Repentance and forgiveness are coordinate principles, but to fail to do either of those two things (i.e., to repent or to forgive) for the individuals concerned is to fail to follow the teaching of Christ. As Christ said, "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you; but if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." We can only control our own actions, and we will be held accountable only for our own actions. Edited March 20, 2013 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Of course it does. Repentance and forgiveness are coordinate principles, but to fail to do either of those two things (i.e., to repent or to forgive) for the individuals concerned is to fail to follow the teaching of Christ. As Christ said, "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you; but if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." We can only control our own actions, and we will be held accountable only for our own actions.Your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Your point? Both sides should forgive each other and move on, as Christ commands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Both sides should forgive each other and move on, as Christ commands.I don't think anyone said anything about NOT forgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I don't think anyone said anything about NOT forgiving. Somebody did say something about lying though, who's lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I like spaghetti squash. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I don't think anyone said anything about NOT forgiving. Letting bygones be bygones, and being willing to talk about past difficulties in order to make amends, thus allowing people to move on with things seems pretty innocuous to me. It is simply a form of putting the problems of the past behind you, of clearing the air, but evidently that is not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Letting bygones be bygones, and being willing to talk about past difficulties in order to make amends, thus allowing people to move on with things seems pretty innocuous to me. It is simply a form of putting the problems of the past behind you, of clearing the air, but evidently that is not the case.If there were wrongs, certainly those who committed them would know of them, yes?I can't speak for anyone else, but I keep my side of the street clean and do my best not to worry about others making amends. If someone needs to make amends and does not, it's his or her heart which suffers, not mine. I'm okay. :)It's been fun chatting. Mid-emergency at work and a broken finger is making this unusually difficult. I'll return shortly. :wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 If there were wrongs, certainly those who committed them would know of them, yes? I can't speak for anyone else, but I keep my side of the street clean and do my best not to worry about others making amends. If someone needs to make amends and does not, it's his or her heart which suffers, not mine. I'm okay. :) It's been fun chatting. Mid-emergency at work and a broken finger is making this unusually difficult. I'll return shortly. :wave: I am happy for you. Clearly some people have not done that as well as other. I have not done that as well I as should, which is why I have had to ask forgiveness of both friends and family. I am also pleased to say that when I have had to do that I have been blessed because those I have sought forgiveness from have been open to speaking about what caused our difficulties in the first place. That Nihil offered to speak to Lil Red was a good thing, at least as I see it, because they are both Catholic, and they both receive the same sacred body and blood of Christ in communion. They are brother and sister, and that is true whether they personally like it or not. Forgive and you will be forgiven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 If there were wrongs, certainly those who committed them would know of them, yes? I can't speak for anyone else, but I keep my side of the street clean and do my best not to worry about others making amends. If someone needs to make amends and does not, it's his or her heart which suffers, not mine. I'm okay. :) This being the case, please do not insinuate that I am guilty of lying, if you do not plan on demonstrating how I have supposedly lied. That would also a violation against truth, if that is indeed what you were doing above. I asked for clarification, which you declined to provide, so I suppose there is nothing more to say on that note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I am happy for you. Clearly some people have not done that as well as other. I have not done that as well I as should, which is why I have had to ask forgiveness of both friends and family. I am also pleased to say that when I have had to do that I have been blessed because those I have sought forgiveness from have been open to speaking about what caused our difficulties in the first place. That Nihil offered to speak to Lil Red was a good thing, at least as I see it, because they are both Catholic, and they both receive the same sacred body and blood of Christ in communion. They are brother and sister, and that is true whether they personally like it or not. Forgive and you will be forgiven. Also all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I am happy for you. Clearly some people have not done that as well as other. I have not done that as well I as should, which is why I have had to ask forgiveness of both friends and family. I am also pleased to say that when I have had to do that I have been blessed because those I have sought forgiveness from have been open to speaking about what caused our difficulties in the first place. That Nihil offered to speak to Lil Red was a good thing, at least as I see it, because they are both Catholic, and they both receive the same sacred body and blood of Christ in communion. They are brother and sister, and that is true whether they personally like it or not. Forgive and you will be forgiven. since you don't know all the details, it would be kind of you to stop talking about things that you (clearly) don't know about. I know I'd appreciate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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