Fr Schmit And Those Anachronistic Trads

[Evangetholic]

http://ncronline.org/news/spirituality/attempt-resurrect-pre-vatican-ii-mass-leaves-church-crossroads

 

 It was curiosity and a sense of irony that moved me to open the Oct. 1 issue of our diocesan newspaper. On the cover was the headline "Moving Forward in Faith" next to a picture of our former bishop vested as would be a prelate from more than 50 years ago. This was a photo from a liturgy in the "extraordinary form" (pre-Vatican II 1962 Latin Mass), welcoming a group of very traditional Carmelite nuns to the diocese.

 

[4588686]

Carl Schmitt was one of the more intelligent fascists.

[Evangetholic]

Carl Schmitt was one of the more intelligent fascists.

 

Schmitt and his Bush-y acolytes could never live up to the cojones requirements of fascism.

[BG45]

This thread can only end well. :popcorn:

[Evangetholic]

This thread can only end well. :popcorn:

 

Is Traditionalism controversial in these parts? (I honestly hadn't noticed)

[Autumn Dusk]

My response.....good for them.  As long as they leave my Mass alone, they can do whatever they want.

[Amppax]

The guy who wrote that article is an idiot.  

[Debra Little]

traditional is where it should be

[KnightofChrist]

Is Traditionalism controversial in these parts? (I honestly hadn't noticed)

Yes it can be, it has in the pass anyway. In fact had a traditional priest wrote a article like this but instead attacked the OF and those that attend it, the link would have likely been removed rather quickly. Lastly the National Catholic Reporter, aka the Fishwrap, should be treated like Fisheaters.

[Nihil Obstat]

My response.....good for them.  As long as they leave my Mass alone, they can do whatever they want.

Oh, but I hope very much that we irascible traddies do not leave alone "your Mass." And I seem to be in agreement with our Pope Emeritus Benedict in this.

Emphasis mine:


 

In the second place, the fear was expressed in discussions about the awaited Motu Proprio, that the possibility of a wider use of the 1962 Missal would lead to disarray or even divisions within parish communities. This fear also strikes me as quite unfounded. The use of the old Missal presupposes a certain degree of liturgical formation and some knowledge of the Latin language; neither of these is found very often. Already from these concrete presuppositions, it is clearly seen that the new Missal will certainly remain the ordinary Form of the Roman Rite, not only on account of the juridical norms, but also because of the actual situation of the communities of the faithful.

It is true that there have been exaggerations and at times social aspects unduly linked to the attitude of the faithful attached to the ancient Latin liturgical tradition. Your charity and pastoral prudence will be an incentive and guide for improving these. For that matter, the two Forms of the usage of the Roman Rite can be mutually enriching: new Saints and some of the new Prefaces can and should be inserted in the old Missal. The “Ecclesia Dei” Commission, in contact with various bodies devoted to the usus antiquior, will study the practical possibilities in this regard. The celebration of the Mass according to the Missal of Paul VI will be able to demonstrate, more powerfully than has been the case hitherto, the sacrality which attracts many people to the former usage. The most sure guarantee that the Missal of Paul VI can unite parish communities and be loved by them consists in its being celebrated with great reverence in harmony with the liturgical directives. This will bring out the spiritual richness and the theological depth of this Missal.

I now come to the positive reason which motivated my decision to issue this Motu Proprio updating that of 1988. It is a matter of coming to an interior reconciliation in the heart of the Church. Looking back over the past, to the divisions which in the course of the centuries have rent the Body of Christ, one continually has the impression that, at critical moments when divisions were coming about, not enough was done by the Church’s leaders to maintain or regain reconciliation and unity. One has the impression that omissions on the part of the Church have had their share of blame for the fact that these divisions were able to harden. This glance at the past imposes an obligation on us today: to make every effort to enable for all those who truly desire unity to remain in that unity or to attain it anew. I think of a sentence in the Second Letter to the Corinthians, where Paul writes: “Our mouth is open to you, Corinthians; our heart is wide. You are not restricted by us, but you are restricted in your own affections. In return … widen your hearts also!” (2 Cor 6:11-13). Paul was certainly speaking in another context, but his exhortation can and must touch us too, precisely on this subject. Let us generously open our hearts and make room for everything that the faith itself allows.

[mortify]

"All your mass are belong to us!"

[ToJesusMyHeart]

My response.....good for them.  As long as they leave my Mass alone, they can do whatever they want.

your Mass?

 

what?  :blink:

[Apotheoun]

The guy who wrote that article is an idiot.  

Interestingly his parish is on the Camino Diablo (the Devil's Road) in Byron, a town that is about 40 minutes from my house.