MIKolbe Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Have you ever doubted? Yes. alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I've never had dryness or major doubts. I do not wish to ever have either, though many very holy people have had both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the171 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I doubt, but when I am close to giving up Jesus slaps me across the face and reminds me, "Oh yeah! That's JESUS!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiiMichael Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I spent the first 20 years of my life doubting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I've never had dryness or major doubts. I do not wish to ever have either, though many very holy people have had both. Obtaining the highest forms of contemplative prayer seems almost to necessitate going through the Dark Night of the Spirit and the Dark Night of the Soul. See St. Teresa of Avila and St. John of the Cross's works to learn more about contemplative prayer. They are Doctor's of the Church because of what they have taught us on prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) Aw, I thought this was going to be a thread about bread. I love me some bread...French, Italian, Cuban. Someone should make that thread. Edited March 4, 2013 by Era Might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Obtaining the highest forms of contemplative prayer seems almost to necessitate going through the Dark Night of the Spirit and the Dark Night of the Soul. See St. Teresa of Avila and St. John of the Cross's works to learn more about contemplative prayer. They are Doctor's of the Church because of what they have taught us on prayer. I've read all of this; but there seems to me to be a modern tendency to shoot holes into faith. I believe in God because He's shown Himself to me. I at the moment can no more doubt Him and Our Mother, the Church than I can doubt the hand that's typing this. I'll take my dark night, I'll take my season of dryness, my Lover hiding Himself from me if it comes, but I do not seek it. And my experience of God has been so intimate. So based on He and I together always whispering things to each other that it would be something like death to have Him hide my faith from me. It scares me, depresses me, stresses me, confuses me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 This is not hyperbole but I'd rather lose my physical eyes, my health, and my sanity than have Him hide from me. St Therese de Lisieux describes Him hiding from her and it actualy gave me a really bad nightmare recenty. I was like the woman at the tomb "They have taken my Lord away," she said, "and I don't know where they have put him." I woke up crying and shaking, but He was still with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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