Apotheoun Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 anyway.... Yes, back to the enthralling topic of rumors of "homosexual scandals." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Yes, back to the enthralling topic of rumors of "homosexual scandals." :hehe: okay, now that was funny. props. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Lil Red, on a serious note, people should be where they will find the greatest degree of spiritual growth, and if that for you is the Roman Church . . . more power to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Lil Red, on a serious note, people should be where they will find the greatest degree of spiritual growth, and if that for you is the Roman Church . . . more power to you. thank you....and right back atcha. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Once again, the West isn't the only place that "dispenses" with its traditions. The Orthodox have dispensed with Papal authority and with the prohibition on birth control among other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Once again, the West isn't the only place that "dispenses" with its traditions. The Orthodox have dispensed with Papal authority and with the prohibition on birth control among other things. That would follow only if "papal authority" as it exists today is ancient, and clearly the Orthodox do not believe that that is the case. As far as birth control is concerned, NFP is a form of birth control (a natural form of it), and it is approved by the Roman Church's hierarchy; while birth control is not approved by the Orthodox Church's tradition in general, but is supported by a small number of clerics in the Western world. The Russian Orthodox Church (the largest single Orthodox jurisdiction) rejects birth control in its synodical Bases of the Social Concept, supporting instead the periodic continence of the marital fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Postscript: Two documents of the Joint International Commission for Theological Dialogue Between the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church have touched on the Eastern and Western theories of the primacy and they reveal a fairly common understanding of that governing principle in the sources when focused solely upon the writings of the first millennium, but they also reveal a major divergence of opinion among theologians during the second millennium. In the final analysis the present practice of the Roman Church will have to be conformed to the views of the Holy Fathers of the first millennium if there is to be any hope of restoring communion between the Catholic Church (Roman and Eastern) and the Eastern Orthodox Churches. Personally I continue to remain hopeful about the future prospects for dialogue and communion. Edited March 3, 2013 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 If you mean to suggest a renunciation of the Dogma of Papal Infallibility is necessary for communion with Eastern Christians then I would not hold my breath were I you. One day you and I are going to have a very ugly and un-Christian fight over the nature of the Church, but for now, let's agree to disagree. I'll even let you have the last word Apo. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 If you mean to suggest a renunciation of the Dogma of Papal Infallibility is necessary for communion with Eastern Christians then I would not hold my breath were I you. One day you and I are going to have a very ugly and un-Christian fight over the nature of the Church, but for now, let's agree to disagree. I'll even let you have the last word Apo. :) Such fights have happened before. Although they need not be ugly. :) One (of many) thing(s) Apo does very well is not letting himself get worked up over debates. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) If you mean to suggest a renunciation of the Dogma of Papal Infallibility is necessary for communion with Eastern Christians then I would not hold my breath were I you. One day you and I are going to have a very ugly and un-Christian fight over the nature of the Church, but for now, let's agree to disagree. I'll even let you have the last word Apo. :) I doubt we will have an "ugly" or "un-Christian" fight, a messy one maybe, but that would be about it. This is internet after all, which is more like reality TV than reality. Edited March 3, 2013 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Such fights have happened before. Although they need not be ugly. :) One (of many) thing(s) Apo does very well is not letting himself get worked up over debates. :) He is a delightful fellow. I'd hug him if he'd only stop running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 If you mean to suggest a renunciation of the Dogma of Papal Infallibility is necessary for communion with Eastern Christians then I would not hold my breath were I you. . . . On that issue I like what Ratzinger said in one of his books several years ago: "Rome must not require more from the East with respect to the doctrine of primacy than had been formulated and was lived in the first millennium." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 On that issue I like what Ratzinger said in one of his books several years ago: "Rome must not require more from the East with respect to the doctrine of primacy than had been formulated and was lived in the first millennium." Respectfully, I disagree with that non-Infallible statement; but I still love you, you're like a little Bunny Rabbit to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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r2Dtoo Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 OMG!!! That is the cutest picture of dinner I have ever seen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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