Selah Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 http://youtu.be/1_47KVJV8DU ROFL This is why we're friends xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 ROFL This is why we're friends xD Woot woot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToJesusMyHeart Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I am not confuse and I know where you are coming from in saying it since you can only see this historical Jesus as the Christ of God while the other Jesus is still hidden from you (This other Jesus is different from this historical Jesus). There is a big difference between God’s revelation and tradition although I know that you consider your Tradition as God’s revelation. Let me put it this way. Did you ever see Jesus Christ the way Apostle Paul and all God’s witnesses like Abraham saw Him? If not then, you just believe that this historical Jesus is the Christ of God. This ‘knowledge’ about historical Jesus was ‘accepted and believed’ to be the ‘revelation’ of God about his Christ and that is ‘only’ according to your early church fathers. This historical Jesus is not from God’s revelation himself because if it is true then you ‘must’ have seen Jesus Christ the way Apostle Paul and all God’s witnesses saw Him. So, the question now is this. Have you truly seen Jesus Christ or not? Yes. I have truly seen Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reyb Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) Yes. I have truly seen Jesus Christ. As I have said before, all God’s witnessess including all Holy Prohets of the past are basically ‘Christians’ since they belong to Christ for having the Spirit of Christ. (See Romans 8:9, Peter 1:11). In Eph 4:4-6, It is written, There is one body and one Spirit— just as you were called to one hope when you were called— one Lord, one faith , one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. Now, my question is this. Are Holy Prophets ‘Trinitarians’ like you? Or Do you received the same baptism of a true prophet? Edited March 1, 2013 by reyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Your face is an idolator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 yo dawg I heard you like idolaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 reyb, your keep playing the same broken and wrong record. yes we know that you think everyone else is wrong and your the only one right. that everyone's else beliefs are wrong and only you and you alone have decifered the bible. we get it. let's move on to something else. no one here will come to believe in your off the wall belief system, so i say stop trying to force it and talk abouot something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Enough of Reyb. Let's talk about Christopher West's take on Theology of the Body. I think in some ways he vulgarizes what I'm going to start calling the intimate union. Man for woman, woman for man and as the Church has always taught it is good and holy for the woman to open herself (donatively) to receive her husband. It provides a shadow of the deeper reality of what goes on between Jesus and the Church (not to mention each of us individually as well); but still human nature being what it is, there ought be restraint, reverence, and even a bit of fear in the intimate union between man and wife. I think West is something of a sexualist, he doesn't seem to advocate any fearful reverence for husband and wife's sacredness, for the fact that these parts they'll use to make saints and to give each other a little and imperfect taste of Heaven, are not some utilitarian bits and pieces of meat that may be used however one sees fit and not injure, even if only slightly, chastity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Enough of Reyb. Let's talk about Christopher West's take on Theology of the Body. I think in some ways he vulgarizes what I'm going to start calling the intimate union. Man for woman, woman for man and as the Church has always taught it is good and holy for the woman to open herself (donatively) to receive her husband. It provides a shadow of the deeper reality of what goes on between Jesus and the Church (not to mention each of us individually as well); but still human nature being what it is, there ought be restraint, reverence, and even a bit of fear in the intimate union between man and wife. I think West is something of a sexualist, he doesn't seem to advocate any fearful reverence for husband and wife's sacredness, for the fact that these parts they'll use to make saints and to give each other a little and imperfect taste of Heaven, are not some utilitarian bits and pieces of meat that may be used however one sees fit and not injure, even if only slightly, chastity. i think there should be no fear between husband and wife in marital relations. if you fear marital relations with your spouse you are obviously not giving them your self completely. also at a time when two are supposed to become one, fear should not be going on. fear drives couples apart, not bringing them together as one. also how does west vulgarize the intimate union between husband and wife? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reyb Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) To all Christian Teachers, Let us not make our discussion irrelevant to our subject since you can create another topic regarding your issues and I will not push you if you do not want to answer that simple question. Although your intention in ignoring it is very obvious nonetheless I am still hoping that you get my message that God alone can reveal his Christ. Again, no one except God can make his Christ known to anyone because Christ is the mystery of God, and therefore only God can reveal his Christ. Every witness of God knows about it hence they are always saying ‘wait for the Lord’. Apostle Paul already warned us in 2 Thess 2:3 ‘Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction’. He even said prior to that statement ‘not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come.’ And your early fathers practically did it. They used the letters of Apostle Paul and other witnesses like Luke and then said ‘that the day of the lord has already come’. Thus, you have now your historical Jesus as the Christ of God. A witness can only testify but he has no power to reveal the only Christ of God. While false teachers are teachers who do not know that they are false (otherwise they will not teach anymore). It is written 1 Tim 1:3-7 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work — which is by faith. The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. Some have wandered away from these and turned to meaningless talk. They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm. All of you who teach about this historical Jesus as the Christ of God are now doing it. You are teaching that this historical Jesus is the Christ of God but you do not really know what you are talking about or what you are confidently affirm. Because at the end of the day, everything you teach about him ended up in mystery. Do you really believe that God alone can make his Christ known to anyone? I do not think so. Because how come you can 'reveal' it to anyone? Billions of souls are already lost because of you. . Edited March 3, 2013 by reyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Reyb, no offense, but you do not make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 If marital relations makes you fearful, ur doin it rong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 All today's Christians? All of them? I'm impressed you know that many people. This is a thread worthy of Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 This is a thread worthy of Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye. :| Shh! Don't invoke him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reyb Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Reyb, no offense, but you do not make any sense. Please explain it why my arguments are no sense. Edited March 3, 2013 by reyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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