HisChildForever Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I'm not totally kidding. I don't think that most Priests are gay but it wouldn't surprise me if proportionally there were more gay men in the Priesthood than in the general population. Gay men tend to have more sex that heterosexual or lesbian couples so I don't think that this is totally surprising. Also, the environment is kind of set of for bi-curious exploration. I know an Iranian expatriate who told me that Shia clerical school have a similar reputation in Iran. But...why would a practicing homosexual even want to join a seminary? Obviously, the Catholic Church condemns homosexual relations so not only are you committing your life to an institution that's against what you're practicing...but you're walking into a group of men who *most likely* agree with that institution. Wouldn't it be just way, way easier to go to a gay bar or social event where you can find a partner, live openly, and pick any faith you want? I just don't get it. Even if one wanted to buy into the "gay mafia" or "gay infiltration" conspiracy, it seems to me those men have picked half a life for the reasons outlined above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 Perhaps you could show me where I've used such terms if I'm being "uppity"? Relax brother, I wasn't suggesting you used such terms anymore than you were suggestesting I thought another phatmasser was a "lib," simply for using the term in my post! :) But yea, there's a clear slant in this forum and we all know which direction it leans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 Michael.Voris. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqkTzS02hDo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) Har har. Anyway, I'm sure the number of heterosexuals in the hierarchy is higher than the number of homosexuals. In other words, shouldn't there be a greater probability of heterosexual activity, just by looking at the numbers? Oh and just for the record, I don't believe that homosexuals are more likely than heterosexuals to be promiscuous, so that doesn't even enter into the equation for me. That's why I was wondering if this was more a media bias issue. After all, the media would create more of a stir with Catholic-Church-that-hates-gays-is-full-of-gay-love headlines. Just throwing out an idea, but historically heterosexual scandal was more prominent (e.g., in the middle ages). I would be inclined to look toward historical and sociological explanations. In the middle ages it was not impossible (though officially not allowed) for a priest to have a mistress and kids...that kind of thing wouldn't fly today, so heterosexual activity is probably less likely because it won't go anywhere. Homosexual activity is more given to secrecy and behind-the-scenes scandal because it can't go anywhere anyway...there's no homosexual marriage in the church. I imagine that heterosexual scandal might be more common today in a place like Africa. Keep in mind that the Western model of the priesthood is not "the" model. In the Western church the priesthood is a sort of marine corps or a clerical class, whereas in other ages or other cultures the priesthood was more integrated into family life (e.g., married men could be priests). Edited March 2, 2013 by Era Might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) damnit Edited March 2, 2013 by Winchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Relax brother, I wasn't suggesting you used such terms anymore than you were suggestesting I thought another phatmasser was a "lib," simply for using the term in my post! :) But yea, there's a clear slant in this forum and we all know which direction it leans. Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 Seriously? Yes, this forum is way too rad-trad for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 But there really is a secret homosexual network in the Vatican :disguise: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Just throwing out an idea, but historically heterosexual scandal was more prominent (e.g., in the middle ages). I would be inclined to look toward historical and sociological explanations. In the middle ages it was not impossible (though officially not allowed) for a priest to have a mistress and kids...that kind of thing wouldn't fly today, so heterosexual activity is probably less likely because it won't go anywhere. Homosexual activity is more given to secrecy and behind-the-scenes scandal because it can't go anywhere anyway...there's no homosexual marriage in the church. I imagine that heterosexual scandal might be more common today in a place like Africa. Keep in mind that the Western model of the priesthood is not "the" model. In the Western church the priesthood is a sort of marine corps or a clerical class, whereas in other ages or other cultures the priesthood was more integrated into family life (e.g., married men could be priests). But who's to say that the heterosexual clergy in question would only look for a romantic connection...heterosexual relations aren't limited to marriage in today's world and can come with a "no strings attached" clause. Maybe these clergy wouldn't *want* their heterosexual activity to go anywhere. I'm really just trying to figure out - what stops the heterosexual clergy (those who are of the disposition to seek sex) from acting on their urges that *doesn't* stop the homosexual clergy (those who are of the disposition to seek sex)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 But who's to say that the heterosexual clergy in question would only look for a romantic connection...heterosexual relations aren't limited to marriage in today's world and can come with a "no strings attached" clause. Maybe these clergy wouldn't *want* their heterosexual activity to go anywhere. I'm really just trying to figure out - what stops the heterosexual clergy (those who are of the disposition to seek sex) from acting on their urges that *doesn't* stop the homosexual clergy (those who are of the disposition to seek sex)? Well just off the top of my head I can think of five recent prominent cases of priests involved with women...don't know what that says about how common it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Heterosexual Don Juanism is alive and well among Catholic clerics. It just hasn't turned into a major international scandal, because unlike the sexual abuse scandal it does not involve, generally, the assault of children (do not try to sell me the party line about teenagers not being children, I'm not buying). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Yes, this forum is way too rad-trad for me :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debra Little Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 how could anyone say stuff like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Papal Resignation Linked To Hidden Homosexual Network? Well, I guess that brings a whole new meaning to LinkedIn... Seriously though, I really don't think a single fashion consultant counts a lobby. Are their priests who have their male whores? Sure, but why would that really give the whores power over the Church? Edited March 3, 2013 by r2Dtoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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