r2Dtoo Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Why are we all talking about this when people all over the world are dying to know whether its permissible to eat Soylent Green on Fridays of Lent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Oh, I accept it in the sense that I am fully aware that I cannot fix ridiculous. I'm not ridiculous for not being willing to eat meat on any Friday. This is a very old tradition; nor am I rendered uncharitable just because I'm going to have to find some way short of eating meat to communicate to ________ that Jesus and I love them. Tact is also fairly clear -- at least in my mind. I know at least one other person has said it: eat what is set before you and give thanks to God for the nourishment of your body. The disposition of your heart is of greater importance than your scrupulous following of every law and command. I'll not be called scrupulous either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I don't eat meat on Fridays. Never have. Never will. Doesn't mean that I'm afraid I'll melt or that I think the one offering it is from Hell. Just means that my primary relationship is with Jesus. As an act of loyalty to Him I keep Friday as a day to mourn His death and my sin. Not a legalist, not ridiculous, a romanticist or some insensitive jerk--I am in love with Jesus in rapt and breathless awe before Him, Fridays are our thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I'm not ridiculous for not being willing to eat meat on any Friday. This is a very old tradition; nor am I rendered uncharitable just because I'm going to have to find some way short of eating meat to communicate to ________ that Jesus and I love them. I'll not be called scrupulous either. Now don't go gettin' your britches in a twist. I'm speaking specifically to the question the OP asked. If someone made a meal specifically for you (in this case, his pregnant wife) and accidentally included meat, would you eat it? I say, yes, eat it; be gracious and grateful. If it were easy to avoid the meat in the dish and perhaps save it for another meal, great. In this case, it sounds like it was mixed in and there wasn't any avoiding it. I don't think you're going to disrespect your relationship with Jesus by eating a meal that was prepared for you and only you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangetholic Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I'm French, black, and Jewish. My breeches are highly twistable. If that's you in your avi we should get married. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 If a meal was prepared specifically with you in mind out of love for you, but it contained meat products and was prepared on a Friday in lent, would you eat the meal or decline? Why or why not? This is not a scenario where you could eat parts of the meal (for instance meat lasagna where the meat cannot be separated from the dish) Assuming I was able to fast., if it is an act of love to the other, I would find a way to eat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappo Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 But it IS important. This is not some stranger, as someone pointed out this is your wife, your pregnant wife at that, one flesh and that whole deal. She made a mistake. Call the Bishop if you must but eat the meal. Look at it on the other side: This is not some stranger. This is someone who knows me intimately and is extremely understanding and knowledgeable of my desire to fulfill the laws of fasting and abstinence. One of her biggest goals in life is to help me to get to heaven. She knows that I would love to eat the meal if it weren't friday, and that my choosing not to eat the meal is no reflection on her cooking or my gratitude for her act of service. So why is declining the meal such a rude and awful thing to do? If anyone in the world could understand that I can't eat the meal for religious reasons it would be her, my wife who knows me extremely well. If it were a Friday outside of lent, I would certainly make another act of penance or fasting as permitted by the USCCB, but during lent there is no such exception given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappo Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Tact is also fairly clear -- at least in my mind. I know at least one other person has said it: eat what is set before you and give thanks to God for the nourishment of your body. The disposition of your heart is of greater importance than your scrupulous following of every law and command. Scrupulosity in such a case would more be in line with going to confession because while eating your single piece of broccoli you permitted yourself to eat on a friday, a piece of dried and cracked skin from your lips entered your mouth and you were afraid that skin cells would be considered meat and you might now be in mortal sin. Declining a meal that clearly has unavoidable meat products in it on a Friday in lent is not in any way scrupulous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Look at it on the other side: This is not some stranger. This is someone who knows me intimately and is extremely understanding and knowledgeable of my desire to fulfill the laws of fasting and abstinence. One of her biggest goals in life is to help me to get to heaven. She knows that I would love to eat the meal if it weren't friday, and that my choosing not to eat the meal is no reflection on her cooking or my gratitude for her act of service. So why is declining the meal such a rude and awful thing to do? If anyone in the world could understand that I can't eat the meal for religious reasons it would be her, my wife who knows me extremely well. If it were a Friday outside of lent, I would certainly make another act of penance or fasting as permitted by the USCCB, but during lent there is no such exception given. I think this is extremely reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Look at it on the other side: This is not some stranger. This is someone who knows me intimately and is extremely understanding and knowledgeable of my desire to fulfill the laws of fasting and abstinence. One of her biggest goals in life is to help me to get to heaven. She knows that I would love to eat the meal if it weren't friday, and that my choosing not to eat the meal is no reflection on her cooking or my gratitude for her act of service. So why is declining the meal such a rude and awful thing to do? If anyone in the world could understand that I can't eat the meal for religious reasons it would be her, my wife who knows me extremely well. If it were a Friday outside of lent, I would certainly make another act of penance or fasting as permitted by the USCCB, but during lent there is no such exception given. I think it really just depends on your wife's reaction. She knows you well, but you also know her well. If not eating the meal isn't a big deal to her, if you kindly say that you appreciate her effort and you'd like to put it in the fridge for tomorrow night or tomorrow's lunch, I definitely see how you can refuse and it be okay. If she spent a normal amount of time making dinner and just forgot it was Friday, that's one thing. But like, if she spent her whole day slaving over a turduckin lasagna because it's your absolute favorite and you guys were having a rough week so she was trying to do something especially nice for you but completely forgot it's a Friday...then that's a situation where I'd say to suck it up for the good of the relationship and do another penance or sacrifice. Maybe one reason why some people are getting so frustrated with your refusal is because "made a meal especially for you" kinda sounds more like the turduckin lasagna than nuking a beef and bean burrito in the microwave for you...ya know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Turducken is overrated. We did one for Thanksgiving once years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Turducken is overrated. We did one for Thanksgiving once years ago. Ah, but Turducken Lasagna? That, my friend, takes talent. :hehe2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Ah, but Turducken Lasagna? That, my friend, takes talent. :hehe2: Hm, perhaps. Perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappo Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Maybe one reason why some people are getting so frustrated with your refusal is because "made a meal especially for you" kinda sounds more like the turduckin lasagna than nuking a beef and bean burrito in the microwave for you...ya know? Maybe I'll clarify that a bit then, good point. I'm not talking prime rib, yorkshire pudding, a glass of red wine and a nice salad that's for sure! It was frozen hashbrowns, cheese, and one other thing that I forget all mixed together with cream of chicken (not fake chicken broth bullion cubes, but cream of chicken containing bits of chicken meat) and thrown in the oven to bake for a bit. She had me in mind when making it and wouldn't have cooked it otherwise. My guesstimate is prep time 10-15 minutes bake time 20-30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
add Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) Shut up and eat your dinner. Don't forget to thank God and kiss your wife for taking such good care of your sorry rear end Of course if you are served a home cooked meal you like it. (And show a little gratitude) Edited March 1, 2013 by add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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