Nihil Obstat Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 So was Fr. Corapi. Of course, same could be said for a priest who abuses people/children as long as he is "bringing people to the Sacraments". Which is why we should be thankful that there is no sane or credible reason to suspect Fr. Z of such sins. And why we should be quick to defend his right to not be calumniated. Emphasis mine. Surely he isn't serious? Is there a problem with him living outside his diocese, with the approval of his bishop, and not seeking faculties elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 i think she means the part about "not functioning publicly as a priest". (that's what I got out of that) Which is why we should be thankful that there is no sane or credible reason to suspect Fr. Z of such sins. And why we should be quick to defend his right to not be calumniated. OH MY GOSH. ARE YOU SERIOUSLY BEING THIS DENSE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonNovi Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) http://wdtprs.com/blog/2013/02/why-dont-priests-follow-rubrics-fr-z-cheerfully-rants/ "The rubrics of the older Mass are a powerful leash indeed. When a priest obeys the rubrics of the older form of Mass, he is kept under tight control. He cannot impose too much of himself on the Mass and on the congregation. On top of that, the mania of turning altars around – in no way asked for or required by the Council – poured gasoline on already fired up priestly pride." I want to know your thoughts. +JMJ :offtopic: This is the original post. The question was not: "Do you like fr.Z?". TJMH only wanted to know if we agree with the quoted part or not (i.e. if fr. Z is right on this one or not, no matter how he said it). So let's talk rubrics here, and not priests :amen:;) I agree on this. I know priests who follow the rubrics with continuity in mind. Someone said to me after seeing such a Mass: "Woah, this was an OF with the dignity of the EF". The difference indeed isn't that big anymore. Example Edited February 11, 2013 by NonNovi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Which is why we should be thankful that there is no sane or credible reason to suspect Fr. Z of such sins. And why we should be quick to defend his right to not be calumniated. Where was he calumniated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 He definitely presents himself as a priest, in public. That's his whole schtick. DO you think he would have half the followers and/or credibility without the collar? A blog is as public as it gets and he makes sure everyone knows he wears that collar. He uses the o{]:¬) smiley. He has an "Ask Father" question box. For goodness sake. He has broadcasted himself saying Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Sad to see so many 'Catholics' so ready to bash a priest. Shame on you. Shame! Agree or disagree, but do not diss one of our Lord's anointed priests. Agree or disagree, but kneel and kiss his holy hands that confect the Holy Eucharist. I disagree with a lot of what my pastor does. I will NOT disrespect him to another person however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 What does it mean, specifically, for an opinion to be "valid"? What I mean when I use the term is that it's an area where many opinions are "allowed" by the Church on an issue. I'm allowed to think the Novus Ordo is best, and Nihil is allowed to think Extraordinary Form is best. Neither of us is more right than the other, and we both have good reasons for our opinions. That type of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Sad to see so many 'Catholics' so ready to bash a priest. Shame on you. Shame! Agree or disagree, but do not diss one of our Lord's anointed priests. Agree or disagree, but kneel and kiss his holy hands that confect the Holy Eucharist. I disagree with a lot of what my pastor does. I will NOT disrespect him to another person however. To be clear, we must respect his office as a priest. We don't have to like him as a person. That's basic theology and common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 To be clear, we must respect his office as a priest. We don't have to like him as a person what he publishes on the internet. That's basic theology and common sense. fixed. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) ooops didnt read closely enough first but found the link I was looking for Edited February 11, 2013 by vee8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 What I mean when I use the term is that it's an area where many opinions are "allowed" by the Church on an issue. I'm allowed to think the Novus Ordo is best, and Nihil is allowed to think Extraordinary Form is best. Neither of us is more right than the other, and we both have good reasons for our opinions. That type of thing. But isn't the Church's view on the Mass that neither of them is "better", that they are different but "equal"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 could you post a link to the full text/source please Nihil posted the original on the first page. Here's the link he used: http://wdtprs.com/blog/2011/08/waiting-for-zagano/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 could you post a link to the full text/source please Nihil already posted the link: http://wdtprs.com/blog/2011/08/waiting-for-zagano/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 haha you guys are quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Vee, nihil posted the link in the first page... oh..i'm slow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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