Apotheoun Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXvs35ezZsc Is anyone here at Phatmass going to the Los Angeles Religious Education Congress? And does anyone think that Archbishop Gomez will finally begin the process of cleaning up the terrible liturgies celebrated at the RE Congress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 We can only pray that he goes scorched earth on the conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StMichael Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 What is this? I have no familiarity whatsoever with this (and would it hurt for a Nun to dress like one?). What terrible liturgies do they celebrate? I could go, but have no idea what they are doing? Let me know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXvs35ezZsc Is anyone here at Phatmass going to the Los Angeles Religious Education Congress? And does anyone think that Archbishop Gomez will finally begin the process of cleaning up the terrible liturgies celebrated at the RE Congress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlesister Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 This is the largest catechetical conference in the U.S. Attendance is in the range of 40,000. Having been at several of them as a vocations contact, I too wonder what is so terrible about the liturgies. They may not be what us classically trained choir organists might put together, but they take a tremendous amount of work and sincere reflection. Considering the numbers and diversity of the assembly, the program certainly succeeds in getting participation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 They tend to be highly irreverent. Irreverence is not acceptable, no matter how many people think they like it, or how many attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) Yes, as Nihil indicated, the LA RE Congress liturgies are modernist and irreverent, and can be seen as a poor form of entertainment (e.g., some of the music can only be described as a pale imitation of songs from Disney's "The Lion King." Moreover, the liturgies create new obstacles to ecumenical dialogue with Eastern Orthodox Christians, who see them as non-traditional and as sharing more in common with Protestantism than with the worship offered by the Apostolic Churches of the first millennium. Edited February 8, 2013 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 An Eastern Orthodox blog called "Journey to Orthodoxy" recently posted about the strange liturgies being offered at the education congress in Los Angeles. The comments section of the blog has several posts from Orthodox Christians who were clearly disturbed by what they saw, and who in some sense were confirmed in their view that the Roman Church is in trouble. Greater care by the bishops of the Roman Church in ensuring faithful celebrations of the Eucharist - according to the norms found in the GIRM - would be helpful in overcoming new impediments (i.e., those obstacles created by the Roman Church's liturgical revisions of the late 1960s) to the restoration of communion between the West and the whole of the Orthodox East. Lenten Liturgy: Compare and Contrast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 This is the largest catechetical conference in the U.S. Attendance is in the range of 40,000. Having been at several of them as a vocations contact, I too wonder what is so terrible about the liturgies. They may not be what us classically trained choir organists might put together, but they take a tremendous amount of work and sincere reflection. Considering the numbers and diversity of the assembly, the program certainly succeeds in getting participation. Simply put, the liturgies are Protestant. There is no way around it. It may be a valid consecration, but that does not make the liturgy faithful to the intentions of the Church or Christ. They are a revolt against the beliefs of and authority of the Magisterium. I would say that you are right that they take a tremendous amount of reflection - and the ideologies that go into developing them are misplaced at best, but I would say are heretical, new age, and dangerous. There are times when I watch their liturgies that if I did not know the context I would wonder if I wasn't watching pagan worship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 I agree with Brother Adam as far as the liturgies are concerned. Nevertheless, I am sure that there are probably a few good talks given each year, but sadly no doubt intermixed with presentations that are not fully Catholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StMichael Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Explains why Mass in LA is so disobedient to Rome. Just found a Church this past Sunday that finally is obedient and close to home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 we should all go, march in silently to the front, turn and declare "ANATHEMA" then leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 we should all go, march in silently to the front, turn and declare "ANATHEMA" then leave Rome may find that a little precocious. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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