Women On The Battlefield

[PhuturePriest]

congrats kiddo!  you started a flamethread   :bananarap:

 

Correction: I started two -- in just one day! I'm feeling accomplished. :proud:

[Nihil Obstat]

We have gone for way too long without an SSPX thread.

[Lil Red]

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/01/truth-about-little-women-carrying-big-wounded-men-combat/61495/

 

http://youtu.be/0uKXZImaFig

 

Just to throw more fuel on the fire.

[Winchester]

What did FP say that was actually hateful?

He claimed there were physical differences, and he didn't do so in a hateful manner. Not misogyny.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/01/truth-about-little-women-carrying-big-wounded-men-combat/61495/
 
http://youtu.be/0uKXZImaFig
 
Just to throw more fuel on the fire.

Great. Now do it in full gear during interior fire attack after forcing doors, and searching.

[PhuturePriest]

What did FP say that was actually hateful?

He claimed there were physical differences, and he didn't do so in a hateful manner. Not misogyny.

Great. Now do it in full gear during interior fire attack after forcing doors, and searching.

 

You have left me both breathless and speechless. For you, I will shut up for a few days, and go to bed early every night!

[Maximilianus]

From someone who's been there, done that, and got more than a t-shirt

 

http://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/article/get-over-it-we-are-not-all-created-equal

 

for tl;dr people skip to the 5th paragraph

Edited February 7, 2013 by Maximilianus

[HisChildForever]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suPlYwJ3YvM

[IcePrincessKRS]

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/01/truth-about-little-women-carrying-big-wounded-men-combat/61495/

 

http://youtu.be/0uKXZImaFig

 

Just to throw more fuel on the fire.

 

I'll need to see a video of a woman doing that with a guy who's unconscious laying flat on the ground to be convinced. :| :P

[PhuturePriest]

I'll need to see a video of a woman doing that with a guy who's unconscious laying flat on the ground to be convinced. :| :P

 

I've done karate for twelve years, and I have done emergency rescue stuff in boy scouts for five years (Which we sometimes also do in karate, which is why I mentioned it), and I can tell you that lifting someone that is conscious is easy. Lifting someone that is even just acting unconscious is next to near beaver dam impossible. I can't imagine trying to do it with having fifty pounds of equipment on me and the other person, and under a high-stress situation.

What did FP say that was actually hateful?

He claimed there were physical differences, and he didn't do so in a hateful manner. Not misogyny.

Great. Now do it in full gear during interior fire attack after forcing doors, and searching.

 

To be clear, this:

 

When women are hurt, their reflexes and thinking abilities are
impeded, whereas men generally think more clearly and their reflexes are
not messed with. Also, men and women in the military are not given
equal training. Biologically speaking, it is tougher for men (Because
men are stronger, after all). But do we want women on the battlefield
when we know they have inferior physical training?

 

is expressing opinions and concerns (Though some may be scientifically inaccurate).

 

This:

 

 Why the floopy are women even in the military? They should be home cooking food, cleaning the house, raising the children, and tending to their husband's every need after he is home from a hard day's work!

 

is misogyny.

[IcePrincessKRS]

I've done karate for twelve years, and I have done emergency rescue stuff in boy scouts for five years (Which we sometimes also do in karate, which is why I mentioned it), and I can tell you that lifting someone that is conscious is easy. Lifting someone that is even just acting unconscious is next to near beaver dam impossible. I can't imagine trying to do it with having fifty pounds of equipment on me and the other person, and under a high-stress situation.

 

I was being a little cheeky, but truth be told I've seen guys (who are in good shape) that my husband works with try and lift him in a fireman's carry (without any extra gear) and they've had trouble with it (I've seen one man manage it with ease). I don't think it's impossible for a woman to pull it off, but I don't think it's easy by a long shot. The toughest woman I know is a female soldier. She works out pretty much every day. I've seen her knock out 30+ push ups in perfect form and barely break a sweat. And even she says she couldn't pull off dragging a guy his size out of a combat zone in full gear. If she can't do it I don't have much hope for a lot of other women. lol

Edited February 7, 2013 by IcePrincessKRS

[PhuturePriest]

I was being a little cheeky, but truth be told I've seen guys (who are in good shape) that my husband works with try and lift him in a fireman's carry (without any extra gear) and they've had trouble with it (I've seen one man manage it with ease). I don't think it's impossible for a woman to pull it off, but I don't think it's easy by a long shot. The toughest woman I know is a female soldier. She works out pretty much every day. I've seen her knock out 30+ push ups in perfect form and barely break a sweat. And even she says she couldn't pull off dragging a guy his size out of a combat zone in full gear. If she can't do it I don't have much hope for a lot of other women. lol

 

My props are unfortunately gone... I will be back with props in the morrow!

 

But yeah, it seriously is tough. I know there's not a snowball's chance in hell I could do it. I mean, I could pull a fully-geared up soldier out of a combat zone if you gave me a Ford F150 and a chain, but if it was down to my raw strength I would probably kill me or him before any of us were out of danger.
 

[God the Father]

The complications that arise when working with women in a garrison training environment are annoying enough. This is a dumb idea and everyone I serve with knows it. "SHARP Training"

[Groo the Wanderer]

Women are the pinnacle of God's creation and should be cherished.  Not shot at.

[Fidei Defensor]

Women are the pinnacle of God's creation and should be cherished.  Not shot at.

 

Humans are the pinnacle of God's creation and should be cherished. Not shot at.

[Groo the Wanderer]

Sorry wrong. Thanks for playing. Try again.   Christ was born of a woman, not a man.  Women give birth, not men. Women are far more intelligent, beautiful, nurturing, and caring than men, in general. Blessed are the peacemakers, the merciful, the humble. Usually, these are the women, not the men.