carmenchristi Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 :ninja: My only comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmenchristi Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Society brain washed women to think that they will only be looked at/get any attention, (which they mistake for sincere interest and love) if they dress like slutts. :'( But little do women know that when they get the attention of men, it is always the wrong men, with wrong intentions! :( The reason there use to be so many "gentleman" back then is because women knew how to be ladies. When you respect yourself, others will also respect you. I think dressing modest shows that you respect yourself and will teach others to respect you. What do you think? Also, I feel inspired to possibly even major in fashion design and start my own modest clothing line. I would want to call it "Dressing with Dignity" by Chrissy Claire. What are all of your thoughts? Btw..... Welcome. Sorry that our responses haven't been very welcoming toward you. You are new here so didn't know that this topic is discussed/debated/duked out about once every 2 or 3 months. It usually ends with a closed thread and ponies. So don't take things personally. You have a really good idea about starting a line of modest fashion. I know a lady in NYC who is doing just that. PM me if you want her contact info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatitude Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 The opening post is teetering dangerously close to victim-blaming. Women get unwanted and abusive 'attention' no matter what they wear. The first time I was groped in the street, I was wearing a skirt to mid-calf and a loose-fitting shirt. I was a teenager. I don't see how I could have been dressed any more 'modestly' than that, short of donning an Amish costume or a maybe a suit of armour. Guys who feel entitled to women's bodies will hassle you in spite of how you dress (and if you're a more conservative dresser, you're likely to attract a special type of sleazebag of your very own - the one who thinks it's fun to try and embarrass/hit on religious girls). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 burka burka jihad :paperbag: See, and you two are why I ran out of props for the day. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 To focus discussion, here's the Modesty Survey: http://www.therebelution.com/modestysurvey/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 This has all happened before it will all happen again. So say we all! Some times you gotta roll a hard six. :| ATTENTION ON DECK! We have an officer in our presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Society brain washed women to think that they will only be looked at/get any attention, (which they mistake for sincere interest and love) if they dress like slutts. :'( But little do women know that when they get the attention of men, it is always the wrong men, with wrong intentions! :( The reason there use to be so many "gentleman" back then is because women knew how to be ladies. When you respect yourself, others will also respect you. I think dressing modest shows that you respect yourself and will teach others to respect you. What do you think? Also, I feel inspired to possibly even major in fashion design and start my own modest clothing line. I would want to call it "Dressing with Dignity" by Chrissy Claire. What are all of your thoughts? I'll roll the hard six. :| First, a "modest" clothing line is a wonderful idea. :) Modest attire definitely is a way to show respect for yourself, and others around you. Society does say that women need to dress like sex objects to get attention...but it's more complicated than that. 1. What constitutes "modest" is a pretty wide range of things. My tank top may be modest enough to some, or in some situations, but a burka is modest enough to others in other situations. I can't tell you how many posts we've wasting arguing about whether or not a bikini (a regular, not string, bikini) was modest enough for the beach. A lot of it comes down to personal taste. We have to be careful to not get scrupulous with it. 2. Women who wear burkas still get assaulted. I can't tell you how many times I've been cat-called while walking home from work, wearing dress pants, tennis shoes, and a polo shirt. While it's important to teach all people to dress modestly, we can't turn that into something that absolves idiots for their behavior. We need to teach boys (and others) to treat everyone with respect, regardless of what they're wearing. Assault is rarely about sexual desire, it's actually about power. We need to teach people to take responsibility for their own sin. Adam blamed Eve and Eve blamed the snake...but what would have happened if Adam and Eve took responsibility for their actions, and asked forgiveness? 3. There never was a time when there were loads of gentlemen and ladies. Unless you're talking about the societal title. There have always just been men, who act in different ways, and women, who act in different ways. There was never some "golden age" of virtue. Society's always been a mixed bag. Plus in the past you may have had more "modest" fashions, but showing ankle may have been considered grossly immodest. Or women wearing pants. Times change. There has to be a middle ground between men and women. I think we've focused too much on women dressing "modestly" and not enough on encouraging men to take responsibility for their own sin. But like I said, I think your idea for a clothing line is wonderful. The fashion industry is hard to get in to, but I wish you all the luck. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I can smell the modesty debate from a mile away... This has all happened before it will all happen again. So say we all! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLlZh9yelk[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Jesus Through Mary Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 If I could prop this whole thread I would. modesty isn't just about how many clothes you're wearing. This. When the saints talk about modesty they very rarely even mention clothing. Dress your state in life and with common sense. If you are working on true modest, everything else just flows from it. Not worth getting stuck on the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristinaTherese Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) Btw..... Welcome. Sorry that our responses haven't been very welcoming toward you. You are new here so didn't know that this topic is discussed/debated/duked out about once every 2 or 3 months. It usually ends with a closed thread and ponies. So don't take things personally. You have a really good idea about starting a line of modest fashion. I know a lady in NYC who is doing just that. PM me if you want her contact info. :saint2: (AnneLine's idea for props, not mine.) Edited February 2, 2013 by Christina Thérèse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Welcome to Phatmass! As Carmenchristi said, we tend to have this discussion a lot...people say stupid things, egos are hurt, people accuse one another of things, etc. Which is why some of the older posters are going "oh no!". It doesn't diminish the importance or the spirit behind your posting of the topic though, and in a few pages things should actually be in a relatively serious mood. For the moment though, please enjoy basking in the presence of the lightheartedness! Btw..... Welcome. Sorry that our responses haven't been very welcoming toward you. You are new here so didn't know that this topic is discussed/debated/duked out about once every 2 or 3 months. It usually ends with a closed thread and ponies. So don't take things personally. You have a really good idea about starting a line of modest fashion. I know a lady in NYC who is doing just that. PM me if you want her contact info. Well we can get one of those two out of the way. Pinkie Pie is quite modest in this dress for the Grand Galloping Gala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristinaTherese Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Welcome to Phatmass! As Carmenchristi said, we tend to have this discussion a lot...people say stupid things, egos are hurt, people accuse one another of things, etc. Which is why some of the older posters are going "oh no!". It doesn't diminish the importance or the spirit behind your posting of the topic though, and in a few pages things should actually be in a relatively serious mood. For the moment though, please enjoy basking in the presence of the lightheartedness! Well we can get one of those two out of the way. Pinkie Pie is quite modest in this dress for the Grand Galloping Gala. Oh no! Immodest legs! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Isn't it the rule that when a pink pony enters a open mic thread, the thread is closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Isn't it the rule that when a pink pony enters a open mic thread, the thread is closed? I ran out of props. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Isn't it the rule that when a pink pony enters a open mic thread, the thread is closed? I think you misspelled "20% cooler." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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