sixpence Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265402/Adventurous-human-woman-wanted-birth-Neanderthal-man-Harvard-professor.html?ICO=most_read_module Harvard prof wants to produce a neanderthal ... "In a scathing reaction, Philippa Taylor of the Christian Medical Fellowship said: ‘It is hard to know where to begin with the ethical and safety concerns.’ " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Is there any great difference between a neanderthal and a human? I was always under the impression they were actually people, but I never looked into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Hopefully his supervisors will stop this. If successful, it would probably die soon from disease unless kept in a bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 great...just what we need. more politicians. wait. i just insulted neanderthals. sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Is there any great difference between a neanderthal and a human? I was always under the impression they were actually people, but I never looked into it. Are you talking in a biological sense, or in a theological sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Are you talking in a biological sense, or in a theological sense? Theological mostly, but some biological stuff can't hurt, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Theological mostly, but some biological stuff can't hurt, either. There will be some debate theologically, but I do not think there is really a consensus either way. Frankly I am not sure a conclusion is possible given the limits of what we are able to know. :P Given what we know of evolutionary biology, it seems reasonable to me to say that at some discrete point, these humanoid creatures were given a soul and became the first humans, our first parents. The exact mechanisms... well, I honestly do not want to even speculate. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I recently saw a documentary on the spread of people on the National geographic channel. Neanderthal came to parts of Europe before modern humans migrated there, and there was some interaction after neanderthals had been there a while, then later modern humans took over. Approximately 2.something percent of people carry neanderthal DNA. Personally, I've oft been a fan of theories that say God made basic kinds and then they developed more variations among them. It seems reasonable to me to assume that this is what happened with people, but I do not know much about early humans. Lord help us if they do clone a neanderthal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spem in alium Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzytakara Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 What I don't understand is how the professor thinks their way of thinking may be beneficial as it would be different than our own. I understand that a different type of brain and DNA may lead to some differences, but the way the article is stating it, it seems that the professor is forgetting how culture and society influence individuals. Neanderthals from the past may have thought differently as a result of the culture/societal structures/environment they were exposed to;however, who is to say that they cloned neanderthal won't end up developing the same way modern humans do as a result of cultural/environmental/societal influences. His research may be able to predict what the physical result may be, but there is no research that will determine how our world will influences his/her growth and development, and what he/she will think of being the sole cloned being of an extinct species that most view as primitive. Also what if the mother's human DNA is genetically dominant, or the cloned DNA mutates or doesn't mix well with the human DNA, there is no telling exactly what may happen to the child that results from this experiment. Human life should never be an experiment, and if the experiment ends badly they may decide to kill the child for being an unsuccessful clone. There are a lot of ways our bodies have adapted to the food we eat, the bacteria/viruses we are exposed to, the technology we used...a neanderthal clone may not even be able to survive in our world due to a lack of evolution over time, thus setting up this child's life to die of exposure, starvation, illness, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) WOW. I fail to see what the point is. What would be gained. Also, the world does not need another Hasan. Edited January 23, 2013 by Papist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Isn't it funny how the guy can't find a willing female collaborator from his own academic field? An atheist friend of mine posted this and was talking about how it violated all kinds of human rights and how scientists can't just create conscious, free-willed life as a science experiment. I told her that it would be legal, as it's biologically no different from surrogacy. She said she thought surrogacy was bad, too. First thing we've agreed on in years :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Also, the world does not need another Hasan. False. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 False. See what I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Aaaaaaaannnnndddd it looks like it was all "theoretical." Uh huh. Sure. http://www.newser.com/story/161498/sorry-would-be-neanderthal-moms-story-a-big-mix-up.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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