How Come People Bash Blessed Mother Theresa Of Calcutta?

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

Saints get bashed, it's that simple really.

 

JC " if this is what they do to wet wood what will they do to the wood when it is dry." " If they are against me than how much more to you? "

 

p.s i know those biblical quotes i have written of the lord jesus are not the exact words,but words to that effect. Coal only becomes diamonds under the pressure of the earth pressing against it.

 

 

but not all are diamonds some are gold and some are pearls, all go through some amount of pressure though. And than there is what to do with the Gold, ie:refine it to make a trumpet. Or perhaps a handcrafted diamond ring.

 

 

Edited January 15, 2013 by Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye

[Ash Wednesday]

In the end, I believe she was a saint and will be canonized as such. She likely would be the first to remind us that she was never perfect. If we went back in time we would likely be shocked and almost disillusioned by the humanness and flaws of our saints.

What I actually find most inspirational about her wasn't exclusively her service to humanity, but her endurance and perseverance in the face of decades of spiritual aridity and sometimes even melancholy.

[Lil'Nun]

Well. I am sure she was flawed. We are all broken. But I am also mindful that the Devil hates new Saints - because they inspire the rest of us to try harder.

[fides' Jack]

Many argue that her cause for canonization was wrongfully expedited.  The whole reason for a five year waiting process after a person's death is so that "feelings" about a person can die down so the Church can view a person's cause more objectively.  JPII waived the waiting period and the "devil's advocate" during the process.  Same thing basically happened with JPII's cause.  But I'm not a fan of expediting anyone's cause, because if we're just going to expedite all the people we like, why not abolish waiting periods all together?

 

There are many arguable criticisms of Mother Teresa.  Other than her treatment of the idea of poverty, I've heard that she encouraged her sisters to baptize the dying without any regard for the person's religious beliefs.  She's just become this huge public figure, where she's the example of "good" while Hitler is the example of "evil."  But that doesn't change the fact that Mother Teresa was human, even if she is a saint, she's still flawed. 

 

I know you didn't mean it that way, but if she's a saint, then she is no longer flawed.  

 

Still, she was closer to perfection than I'll ever be in this life.

 

Not to you, but generally, people like to think themselves superior, and so criticize everything and everyone they come into contact with.

[fides' Jack]

In the end, I believe she was a saint and will be canonized as such. She likely would be the first to remind us that she was never perfect. If we went back in time we would likely be shocked and almost disillusioned by the humanness and flaws of our saints.

What I actually find most inspirational about her wasn't exclusively her service to humanity, but her endurance and perseverance in the face of decades of spiritual aridity and sometimes even melancholy.

 

2nd paragraph - yes.  1st paragraph - I disagree: I think modernism has "disillusioned" us into generalizing everybody into the same boat that we're in ourselves.  Saints are there for us to lift up - even to perfection - so that we have good examples of how to be perfect ourselves.  If we start thinking along these lines, then we don't have as much motivation to achieve the perfection we are all called to achieve.

 

Given that, I would say that while most people think along these lines, the opposite is probably true; we would be shocked to discover just how much closer to perfection some people have become (through the grace of God, of course).

[Ash Wednesday]

2nd paragraph - yes. 1st paragraph - I disagree: I think modernism has "disillusioned" us into generalizing everybody into the same boat that we're in ourselves. Saints are there for us to lift up - even to perfection - so that we have good examples of how to be perfect ourselves. If we start thinking along these lines, then we don't have as much motivation to achieve the perfection we are all called to achieve.

Given that, I would say that while most people think along these lines, the opposite is probably true; we would be shocked to discover just how much closer to perfection some people have become (through the grace of God, of course).

You are twisting, or at least have misunderstood what I wrote -- as if I'm insinuating that we shouldn't be motivated to be perfect. I'm not saying this at all. My overall point is that people have this preconceived idea of who the saints were, basically I think people regard them in a very 2-dimensional manner and forget that they were human beings, and they faced life's complexities like the rest of us and likely had to make decisions that did not please everyone for whatever reason. Good examples of this are not just Mother Teresa but also Pope John Paul II and the criticisms people level at them. But at the same time, yes they both strived for perfection and are models to be inspired by and we have been fortunate to know of two saints in our lifetime.

[Debra Little]

People should be ashamed for bashing her.  Could any of us do what she did?  Furthermore she was a religious.

That makes it worse.

Well. I am sure she was flawed. We are all broken. But I am also mindful that the Devil hates new Saints - because they inspire the rest of us to try harder.

 

Yuppers!

[Gabriela]

Furthermore she was a religious.

That makes it worse.

 

I've been thinking about this recently, having spent quite a lot of time in VS over the Winter break. I think people tend to put religious on a pedestal. They're just people, like you and me. I think it's good that they inspire a lot of people to holiness, to a deeper relationship with God. But I don't think it's a good idea to idolize them. There were/are lots of religious out there who should not be emulated.

[CatholicCid]

You are twisting, or at least have misunderstood what I wrote -- as if I'm insinuating that we shouldn't be motivated to be perfect. I'm not saying this at all. My overall point is that people have this preconceived idea of who the saints were, basically I think people regard them in a very 2-dimensional manner and forget that they were human beings, and they faced life's complexities like the rest of us and likely had to make decisions that did not please everyone for whatever reason. Good examples of this are not just Mother Teresa but also Pope John Paul II and the criticisms people level at them. But at the same time, yes they both strived for perfection and are models to be inspired by and we have been fortunate to know of two saints in our lifetime.

 

I really like the bolded. At times, we get the "stained glass" window viewpoint on Saints, as we try to imagine them glorified. We often forget that they were also humans facing sin and struggle like the rest of us. They are our models because they have run the race and endured to the end. If we ignore their failings or their falls, we will never see how they picked themselves up again.

[Socrates]

People bashed Jesus Christ Himself.

So we shouldn't be shocked if enemies of the Church bash or criticize saints.  This is not to say the saints had Christ's divine level of perfection, but they're a lot closer than most of us will get.

 

Personally, I wouldn't trust a "saintly" person whom nobody hated.

[Debra Little]

I've been thinking about this recently, having spent quite a lot of time in VS over the Winter break. I think people tend to put religious on a pedestal. They're just people, like you and me. I think it's good that they inspire a lot of people to holiness, to a deeper relationship with God. But I don't think it's a good idea to idolize them. There were/are lots of religious out there who should not be emulated.

 

you are right

[Gabriela]

you are right

 

You are humble. Which is so very much better than being right. :-)

Personally, I wouldn't trust a "saintly" person whom nobody hated.

 

Good point. Although I've been reading St. Francis de Sales lately, and it seems everyone loved him...

[Nihil Obstat]

St. Dominic Savio seems to have been universally loved by those who knew him.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

a priest told me that some of the saints where famed for loosing even there venial sins, eventually i assume.

a priest told me that some of the saints where famed for loosing even there venial sins. All things good are possible to GOD.

[Debra Little]

a priest told me that some of the saints where famed for loosing even there venial sins, eventually i assume.

a priest told me that some of the saints where famed for loosing even there venial sins. All things good are possible to GOD.

 

Yup.  Our God can do anything.!  He is a wonderful person!  I am so glad I know Him.