Top Ten Reasons Not To Be Catholic

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1: 'You can worship material things.'

2: horde gold

 

3: you can swear

4: no holy days, salad days or days of moldy mayonnaise.'

5: ‘dis your father and your mother.'

6: 'You can murder.'

7: 'you can divorce and remarry as many times as you want, boys-girls-whetever

8: 'You can steal.'

9: 'You can lie.'

TEN: 'You can rob from your neighbor’s; grab your neighbor's wife, you can take your neighbor’s dog

Edited January 10, 2013 by add

[Apotheoun]

Well it kind of undermines the whole foundation when the official narrative is discarded. I know somehow you've managed to reject the Council of Trent and all it represents and still maintain some faith in the communion of churches, but I don't see how that's anything more than wishful thinking.

 

I was referring more to post-Vatican II Roman Catholics who readily admit that the Church has made massive changes to its liturgy and discipline.  As far as the Council of Trent is concerned, it never had any impact on the self-understanding of Eastern Catholics or Eastern Orthodox.

[Papist]

Please see the mainstream media for a comprehensive list.

[i<3franciscans]

*stalking this thread*

[Basilisa Marie]

Council of Laodicea, CANON XXXIII:

No one shall join in prayers with heretics or schismatics.

 

Tell that to the pope when he says the Creed in Greek along with the Orthodox.

[Anomaly]

1. No reason(s) sufficiently compelling to belong to a religion.

[Fidei Defensor]

Tell that to the pope when he says the Creed in Greek along with the Orthodox.

 

Again, just illuminating what the Church has said.

[Anastasia13]

1: 'You can worship material things.'

2: horde gold

 

3: you can swear

4: no holy days, salad days or days of moldy mayonnaise.'

5: ‘dis your father and your mother.'

6: 'You can murder.'

7: 'you can divorce and remarry as many times as you want, boys-girls-whetever

8: 'You can steal.'

9: 'You can lie.'

TEN: 'You can rob from your neighbor’s; grab your neighbor's wife, you can take your neighbor’s dog

 

Orthodox, Protestants, Jews, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Muslims, and Buddhists are not allowed to do some if not all of what you have just said. That is not a list of reasons to not be Catholic. It is a list of reasons to not be religious in a traditional at least in a common religion sense.  This is thus inaccurate, and if taken seriously, can be offensive.

Edited January 10, 2013 by Light and Truth

[Socrates]

(Note: playing devil's advocate here.)

 

1) I like to fornicate.

2) I like to masturbate.

3) I like porn.

4) I like to commit adultery.

5) I like sodomy..

6) I like strip clubs.

7) I like to have sex with anything that moves.

8) I like contraception.

9) I wanna divorce my spouse and take up with another man/woman/whatever.

10) If I make a baby that inconveniences me, I wanna abort it.

 

That's what it mostly comes down to when you boil away the sophistry.

[Socrates]

1. I don't believe the Pope should have more authority than other bishops. (Prooftexting Matt. 16:18 is not enough, plus all pre-schism churches do not have one bishop higher than the others.)

 

2. The Orthodox view of the filoque makes more sense, that the Father is the one that the Spirit comes from, and not Father and Son.

 

3. Services are too short.

 

4. The Rosary is too long and complicated with all of the different mysteries to keep track of.

 

5. There are not many ethnic or Eastern parishes near me.

 

6. If I ever am pregnant and had a predicted to be terminal ailment where no longer being pregnant would save my life, and I terminate my fetus to be there for my other future kid, there will be plenty of condemnation from people who say you should pray and trust God and accept whatever happens when the other treatments fail.

 

7. I've read enough of the Western views and the rules that it seems too rule-filled for someone who cannot just relax and be still and know while trusting God and who needs principles but less formal procedures.

 

8. The new stark church insides are really creepy. (Yes, not all agree.)

 

9. Focusing on mortal sins and the urgent need to confess them takes away from the forgiveness freely offered to us when we repent.

 

10. The formal confession that is required came from people who too afraid to admit their faith in Christ during times of persecution confessing this to those who were not afraid to admit their faith.

 

11. I find the arguments against birth control weak in there basis, the perspectives of the religious who discuss such things too easily dogmatic, and the use of NFP to do anything other than conceive to be immensely hypocritical.

 

12. The Eucharist is for consuming, not sitting around adoring. Take and eat He said, not take and worship nor take and adore.

 

13. Being baptized or even confirmed Catholic does not make you a Catholic for real, only on paper, and baptism does not save either.

 

14. You have to agree with everything they teach to join, and I do not honestly, thus I cannot join.

 

15. Going to church is about more than just receiving the Eucharist.

 

16. The church would rather a validly married, beaten, abused, cheated on and divorced (but not eligible for annulment) 20-something who was called to a life of marriage spend the next X decades struggling with the temptation to fornicate than to get married to another God-loving person to spend the rest of his/her life with.

 

17. The Eucharist as it is practiced now is not the way we were taught in in the scriptures where context shows that it was Passover seder.

 

18. Jesus was a good Jew who respected God’s commandments, and thus kept Torah. He would not cause another to sin. Thus, He would not have literally given his body and blood to his disciples as that is not Kosher even by mere Biblical rather than Talmudic standards.  If He is really the living word, then it is more reasonable to believe that He was referring to Himself as the living Torah, and we have life from it just as the woman at the well was not thirsty again in a spiritual sense rather than a literal sense from the water that He gave that was not literal water.

 

19. If you really followed the traditions of Christ’s apostles, then you would say Kiddish and celebrate Jewish holidays, not just “Christian” ones.

 

20. You can acknowledge that people have a connection to the church and believe that others follow the same God, but you still cannot pray anything with them.

 

21. Muslims do not follow the same God. Muslims deny the trinity (Sura 5:73, Sura 4:171), the deity of Christ our prophesied of savior(Sura 4, Sura 5:72, Sura  5:116, Sura 5:17), and His sonship (Sura 9:29-30, Sura 19:35), yet: Muslims (841) God's plan of salvation includes those who acknowledge the Creator. Among these, in the first place, are the Muslims who profess the faith of Abraham and believe in one merciful God as mankind's judge on the Last Day.  Apparently God was suddenly not a strictly monotheistic deity only after His Son was incarnated, thus several Trinitarian arguments based on Old Testament scripture must suddenly be null and void regardless of the linguistic accuracy of the translations.

 

22. The historic selling of indulgences.

 

23. On a personal level, insufficient support yet for me to believe in purgatory exactly as taught by the Catholic Church.

 

24. The Crusades.

 

 

 

 

25. Real truth remains true. True doctrine does not change. Principles behind actions remain the same, and if something thus can change, it should never have been dogmatic in the first place.

Are these all your real reasons, or are you playing devil's advocate?

 

I admit I'm not an expert, but some of those things I thought oppose what Orthodox Christians believe.  (Such as on baptism, confession, and contraception, for example.)

[Anomaly]

(Note: playing devil's advocate here.)

 

1) I like to fornicate.

2) I like to masturbate.

3) I like porn.

4) I like to commit adultery.

5) I like sodomy..

6) I like strip clubs.

7) I like to have sex with anything that moves.

8) I like contraception.

9) I wanna divorce my spouse and take up with another man/woman/whatever.

10) If I make a baby that inconveniences me, I wanna abort it.

 

That's what it mostly comes down to when you boil away the sophistry.

 

That's pretty much what you just want to be an asc.

[add]

Orthodox, Protestants, Jews, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Muslims, and Buddhists are not allowed to do some if not all of what you have just said. That is not a list of reasons to not be Catholic. It is a list of reasons to not be religious in a traditional at least in a common religion sense. This is thus inaccurate, and if taken seriously, can be offensive.

Offensive to who?
Basic morality is not exclusive to one religion.
Just because Orthodox, Protestants, Jews, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Muslims, and Buddhists happen to agree with catholic's doesn't make them bad or Catholics better.

[DiscerningCatholic]

All the good Catholic guys end up becoming priests or monks. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not a problem for me personally, but heck, I know that there are ladies out there suffering from this. 

[add]

All the good Catholic guys end up .

Some are Happily Married too (with children)

[PhuturePriest]

Tim Staples, Scott Hahn, Stephen Ray, Dr. Ray Guarendi, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, all wonderful Catholic men putting the rest of us to shame, all happily married with five to over ten children each.