God's Beloved Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) Dear Friends in Christ, Thank you for coming here ! In response to the signs of the times -there seems to be a need for discussion /debate on consecrated virginity [canon 604#1 and 2] ----its identity, nature, value, charism, relevance , requirements, history, present, future, its identity and mission by itself / its identity and mission in relation with other vocations . Also questions like : Is it relevant all over the world or only in some parts of the world, should there be a uniform code about the way of life of CV at the universal level , should the consecration be conferred on women with secondary virginity, should the church allow men to receive this consecration , what is the value of CV ontologically and functionally [ being and doing] , the sensus fidelium , should there be a formation plan for CV , what are the joys and struggles , the inter-generational perspectives, how it should be 'lived' etc etc. There is need for discussions on so many points. A very big question Finally : Should CV be suppressed by the Church ? If not, Why ? I know there is a LOT of Chaos. I can think of the tower of Babel. We need a Pentecost so that we may be able to understand each other in our own language . For this gift I pray , asking the Holy Spirit to inspire us to discuss this topic , with openness to the Will of God, whatever it might be regarding this vocation. Shall be happy if we allow a kind of Brainstorming in which we don't have to worry too much about using 'theologically correct' terms since all persons posting here may not have been through formal studies in theology .The Church does not have Formal definitions regarding most aspects of this vocation and has only given us basic guidelines which are open to varied interpretations. Lets see how the Holy Spirit interprets it for us. A small request : Please do not take the contents of this discussion/ debate to any other public spaces like blogs etc. Instead of embarrassing anyone, we can try to email them personally . If anyone believes that she/ he is already sure about their interpretation of CV , then request you to refrain from commenting. Thank you ! Edited January 9, 2013 by God's Beloved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God's Beloved Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 To any CV interested in knowing what the Congregation for the Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life in Rome said about this vocation in yr 2003 : My Question: According to the Roman Pontifical the Rite of Consecration to a Life of Virginity is used for women living in the world and those in monasteries.Does 'living in the world' mean only that it is 'not in a monastery' or should it be lived strictly 'in the world' like in secular institutes ? The charism of cons.virgins is to be an eschatological image of the Heavenly Bride and the life to come, when the Church will at last live her love for Christ the Bridegroom.The charism of Secular Inst. is to transfigure the world from within, acting like a leaven within the cultural, economic and political life. Hence it would be improper for a member of a Secular Inst. to wear clothing which would identify them as a consecrated person. However,Cons.virgins are called to be an image of the Chruch's love for Christ.Would it be proper if the local circumstances demand, to wear clothing which would identify one as a consecrated person or be addressed as 'Sister' even though one does not live in a religious community ? The following was the response with the Official reference number. Prot n.SpR 862-4/2003 The life of virginity lived in the world gives public witness in everyday life , in some self-supporting work and in her service to the Church. It is not quite the same as the style of a secular institute because the virgin's consecration is public ,yet it is secular in the sense that she is not a religious. The use of the veil, provided for in the Rite is decided on in the local circumstances with the Diocesan Bishop.The same would be true regarding any other identifying clothing and/or the use of the title Sister. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For those interested in getting clarifications regarding Consecrated life, if you visit their site on vatican.va , you can write to them with your queries by email. It is accepted if you also give your postal address. You receive a response between 1 to 6 months as I can state from my own experience , if they know you, even by email. Hope this helps. They seem to avoid putting any kind of uniform code at universal level and leave it to the local churches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God's Beloved Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 Understanding the Charism : Yesterday and Today and wondering what it will be in Future , if at all it survives. The charism of cons.virgins is to be an eschatological image of the Heavenly Bride and the life to come, when the Church will at last live her love for Christ the Bridegroom. Since CVs are called to be an Image of the Church's love for Christ , the following according to me, gives some idea how the world looked at the Church of Christ / CVs in ancient history and how the world looks at CVs today. An Interview with the Church [THIS IS THE ANCIENT VERSION.] She looked like a Mystery Sitting in the temple In silent contemplation With her lamp ever lighted Waiting ………………….. Then radiant she came out She kissed a sacred book Read something silently to herself And she went around barefoot Feeding the hungry Healing the sick Supporting the widows and orphans Visiting the old and those in prison And listening to the heart-cries of all. What is it she reads They all wondered…………… It surely contains a secret The reason of her life. She looks like a daughter Of our own land So silent, contemplative So deep and holy Even dressed like us But yet so different. One fine day they asked her WHO ARE YOU ? I am the Bride of Christ said she Tell us more How did you meet your Spouse ? Isn’t he from a land seven seas afar ? No. He suffered, died on a Cross and He Rose again On our own land. I have been washed in the blood of this Lamb And try to follow Him wherever He goes. Opening the sacred book she read. “ Christ loved the Church and gave Himself up for her[Eph. 5: 25]â€. O this story rings the bells In our hearts. All the while a fire was burning in our hearts When you read from the scriptures Surely He is the Way the Truth and the Life The Saviour we have waited for Since thousands of years. O Virgin Bride of Christ Made holy by His Blood Splendid in the Wholeness of your faith Radiant with His glory The joyful Mother of a great company of saints Blessed through the power of the Spirit O Disciple of Christ Who sits at the feet of her Master O Servant who with and under Christ Does service of the work of Salvation O Queen called to share In the glorious royalty Of the King of glory O Instrument and terminal point of Salvation The Design and Charity of the Lord God Are fulfilled in you Your Maternal heart Embraces all people And excludes no one O Mother Church, we are hungry and thirsty Make us your children GIVE US CHRIST ! [THIS IS THE NEW VERSION ACCORDING TO MOST PEOPLE TODAY.] She is the independent Miss Free A Professional with a Job Single but Pious Lay woman A Role-model for women. Half a nun with no vow of Obedience or Poverty. No habit , no restrictions or rules Doing voluntary service part-time. While being part of a Third-order Or a lay movement or association For receiving spiritual inputs. Or member of a Secular Institute Silent leaven in the dough. Living in the world. This comparison is not meant to offend anyone. Is something wrong somewhere ? Where is the Order of consecrated virgins moving ? I have tried to look in- depth into this , trying to find the Identity of the Consecrated virgin- in today’s world, not in theory but in concrete, visible form , especially in Asia where Religious Institutes dominate and seem to flourish. It is a painful search. I feel strongly that the way Consecrated virginity is being asked to live is the Antithesis of the charism in the Early Church. There is lack of continuity with tradition. Since the hierarchy sees a need for silent leaven of Christianity in the world, the charism of secular institutes and lay persons is being artificially imposed on those who receive the Rite of consecration to a life of virginity. Is there anyone who shares my pain and is willing to search with me for the Truth ? I shall be grateful to you ! CAN SOMEONE WRITE THE IDEAL [and Practical ] PORTRAIT OF THE CHURCH [consecrated virgin ]TODAY ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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