Cloisters In The Latin Rite, In Union With Rome?

[Chiquitunga]

Just thought I'd add a note on terminology here though :tomato: (although I'll probably mess up on my wording a bit/things to capitalize, etc)

 

Actually all religious communities in the Roman Catholic Church, whether they use the vernacular and/or Latin are Latin Rite except those in the various other Rites of the Church like the Maronite, Byzantine, Syro-Malabar, etc.

 

So the vast majority of religious communities in the United States are Latin Rite.

 

To refer to those using the old breviary/Office that goes with the Extraordinary Form of the Mass, it's best (to avoid confusion) to indicate just that (that they use the old breviary/EF/the other ways of saying it/Breviarium Romanum/I think saying "old breviary" is easiest :like:) They are of course Latin Rite too, but again that category also includes all of those using the new/ordinary Roman Rite for their Divine Office and Mass. 

 

Regarding communities using the ordinary Roman Rite Office (Liturgia Horarum) there are of course several that do pray it entirely in Latin (but this doesn't make them more Latin Rite than those praying it in the vernacular) Carmels that do this include Buffalo, Alexandria, Brooklyn, & Valley Center, KS. Morristown also prays the entire Office in Latin, but it may perhaps be the old breviary, as I heard from someone they got their books from Elysburg. 

 

So to say it in other words again, those communities that pray the Liturgia Horarum (in Latin and/or its official translations in the vernacular) are Latin Rite

 

Hope this makes sense! :topsy:

 

 

p.s. actually does anyone know, would an old Office like the Carmelite Rite, which is its own Rite, be still in the category of "Latin Rite"  Of course it's all in Latin, yes, but it is not the Roman Breviary .. hmmm

 

p.s. underlining things here to try to make post clearer, not to be argumentative in the slightest :)

 

Edited January 8, 2013 by Chiquitunga

[Gabriela]

Have you been to Mass with them before?

 

I pray that they get more vocations.

 

Yeah. When I'm "home" for the holidays, I go there all the time. They really do need more vocations. :-(

 

They're such lovely men. :-)

[truthfinder]

I could not find a community in England after doing research.  However, I found a traditional Redemptoristine Monastery in Brazil that claims to be the only traditional CsSR monastery left.

 

http://www.redemptoristines.blogspot.co.uk/

 

 

The Transalpine Redemptorists made that blog for them :like: There's a little more info on them on their blog as well, http://www.papastronsay.blogspot.com/search?q=nuns&submit=Search

 

Thanks to both of you.  That's what I thought - and would have been thrilled if there was an English trad. CsSR monastery. 

[inperpetuity]

There was a small group of Redemptoristine nuns in England that I was aware of in around 2005 who were under the Transalpine Redemptorists before they reconciled with Rome.  I know that they are no longer there, but I don't remember what happened to them or where they went.

[Debra Little]

Are there any? Tridentine Mass, Latin office in Gregorian chant, ideally a devotion to Our Lady...? I know the CRNJ in Charles Town, WV, and I just LOVE them. But I've never seen a women's community that looks anything like them.

 

Possibly there is already a thread on this somewhere... References much appreciated!

 

Yes, the Discalced Carmelites.   

Yes, the Discalced Carmelites.   The Mass is in English but devotions and the hours are done in Latin.

[Gabriela]

Just thought I'd add a note on terminology here though :tomato: (although I'll probably mess up on my wording a bit/things to capitalize, etc)

 

Actually all religious communities in the Roman Catholic Church, whether they use the vernacular and/or Latin are Latin Rite except those in the various other Rites of the Church like the Maronite, Byzantine, Syro-Malabar, etc.

 

So the vast majority of religious communities in the United States are Latin Rite.

 

To refer to those using the old breviary/Office that goes with the Extraordinary Form of the Mass, it's best (to avoid confusion) to indicate just that (that they use the old breviary/EF/the other ways of saying it/Breviarium Romanum/I think saying "old breviary" is easiest :like:) They are of course Latin Rite too, but again that category also includes all of those using the new/ordinary Roman Rite for their Divine Office and Mass. 

 

Regarding communities using the ordinary Roman Rite Office (Liturgia Horarum) there are of course several that do pray it entirely in Latin (but this doesn't make them more Latin Rite than those praying it in the vernacular) Carmels that do this include Buffalo, Alexandria, Brooklyn, & Valley Center, KS. Morristown also prays the entire Office in Latin, but it may perhaps be the old breviary, as I heard from someone they got their books from Elysburg. 

 

So to say it in other words again, those communities that pray the Liturgia Horarum (in Latin and/or its official translations in the vernacular) are Latin Rite

 

Hope this makes sense! :topsy:

 

 

p.s. actually does anyone know, would an old Office like the Carmelite Rite, which is its own Rite, be still in the category of "Latin Rite"  Of course it's all in Latin, yes, but it is not the Roman Breviary .. hmmm

 

p.s. underlining things here to try to make post clearer, not to be argumentative in the slightest :)

 

Thank you so much for this correction. It is an important point and I am glad to have learned it! :-)

[Gabriela]

Yes, the Discalced Carmelites.   

 

:eek:

 

Have you ever heard that Chris Rock skit?

 

"They tell you 'never say never'?

 

I'M

 

SAYIN'

 

NEVER!"