ironmonk Posted August 24, 2003 Author Share Posted August 24, 2003 Please stop the fighting There is no fighting. The truth is stated... some do not like the truth... Truth is not subject to emotion. The truth still remains if people do not like it or not. If someone states 2 + 2 = 1... I have an obligation to correct them if I love them. 1829 The fruits of charity are joy, peace, and mercy; charity demands beneficence and fraternal correction; it is benevolence; it fosters reciprocity and remains disinterested and generous; it is friendship and communion: Love is itself the fulfillment of all our works. There is the goal; that is why we run: we run toward it, and once we reach it, in it we shall find rest.108 http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3sec...t1chpt1art7.htm God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 Ignorance is not bliss. If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy people? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolutionoflove Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 (edited) If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy people? Lil Red, someone just told me that "ignorance is bliss" and I was wondering how to respond...your quote says it perfectly! Edited February 20, 2012 by Lil Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 llrddvl, someone just told me that "ignorance is bliss" and I was wondering how to respond...your quote says it perfectly! I'm glad I could help. One of my favorite quotes by John Singleton: "Take a stroll down any college campus, walking through the dorms and apartments you can hear the music of America. Rhythms that drive heads KINKY and STRAIGHT to bob in tune. Voices that rise to express our angers, fears, and loves. The sounds we hear are always changing. Our music at once reminds and makes us forget how different we are. --ALWAYS QUESTION THE KNOWLEDGE-- Its source and purpose. Ignorance is not bliss." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyMoriana Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Hi guys, I am new to this forum and since you all obviously have been thinking about this topic a lot, I wonder if you might be able to help me. Recently, I found out my cousin is a lesbian. She and I grew up together, and I consider her to be like an older sister, but it seems that she needs more guidance these days than I do. I am struggling with finding the right words to say to my cousin to show her the destructive path she is choosing for her life. I am hesitant because I want her to know I still love her and I am afraid to say anything disapproving because I don't want to push her away. Now, she is pushing all of her family away. She is only 19 and she is planning on not coming home for christmas (she is at college) and she never calls anyone anymore. Any thoughts on what I could say to her to maybe open her eyes a little bit and let her know how i feel, and more importantly how GOD feels? She is very stubborn, so I don't want to slap her in the face with what I might say just yet. Thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyMoriana Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Hi guys, I am new to this forum and since you all obviously have been thinking about this topic a lot, I wonder if you might be able to help me. Recently, I found out my cousin is a lesbian. She and I grew up together, and I consider her to be like an older sister, but it seems that she needs more guidance these days than I do. I am struggling with finding the right words to say to my cousin to show her the destructive path she is choosing for her life. I am hesitant because I want her to know I still love her and I am afraid to say anything disapproving because I don't want to push her away. Now, she is pushing all of her family away. She is only 19 and she is planning on not coming home for christmas (she is at college) and she never calls anyone anymore. Any thoughts on what I could say to her to maybe open her eyes a little bit and let her know how i feel, and more importantly how GOD feels? She is very stubborn, so I don't want to slap her in the face with what I might say just yet. Thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Euhh, man...just imagine if the entire world was gay... *...!* AAHH! OK, OK! Nevermind!! :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Hi guys, I am new to this forum and since you all obviously have been thinking about this topic a lot, I wonder if you might be able to help me. Recently, I found out my cousin is a lesbian. She and I grew up together, and I consider her to be like an older sister, but it seems that she needs more guidance these days than I do. I am struggling with finding the right words to say to my cousin to show her the destructive path she is choosing for her life. I am hesitant because I want her to know I still love her and I am afraid to say anything disapproving because I don't want to push her away. Now, she is pushing all of her family away. She is only 19 and she is planning on not coming home for christmas (she is at college) and she never calls anyone anymore. Any thoughts on what I could say to her to maybe open her eyes a little bit and let her know how i feel, and more importantly how GOD feels? She is very stubborn, so I don't want to slap her in the face with what I might say just yet. Thanks a lot! How religious is she, or is she? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Hi guys, I am new to this forum and since you all obviously have been thinking about this topic a lot, I wonder if you might be able to help me. Recently, I found out my cousin is a lesbian. She and I grew up together, and I consider her to be like an older sister, but it seems that she needs more guidance these days than I do. I am struggling with finding the right words to say to my cousin to show her the destructive path she is choosing for her life. I am hesitant because I want her to know I still love her and I am afraid to say anything disapproving because I don't want to push her away. Now, she is pushing all of her family away. She is only 19 and she is planning on not coming home for christmas (she is at college) and she never calls anyone anymore. Any thoughts on what I could say to her to maybe open her eyes a little bit and let her know how i feel, and more importantly how GOD feels? She is very stubborn, so I don't want to slap her in the face with what I might say just yet. Thanks a lot! How religious is she, or is she? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Hi guys, I am new to this forum and since you all obviously have been thinking about this topic a lot, I wonder if you might be able to help me. Recently, I found out my cousin is a lesbian. She and I grew up together, and I consider her to be like an older sister, but it seems that she needs more guidance these days than I do. I am struggling with finding the right words to say to my cousin to show her the destructive path she is choosing for her life. I am hesitant because I want her to know I still love her and I am afraid to say anything disapproving because I don't want to push her away. Now, she is pushing all of her family away. She is only 19 and she is planning on not coming home for christmas (she is at college) and she never calls anyone anymore. Any thoughts on what I could say to her to maybe open her eyes a little bit and let her know how i feel, and more importantly how GOD feels? She is very stubborn, so I don't want to slap her in the face with what I might say just yet. Thanks a lot! How religious is she, or is she? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 (edited) Hi guys, ... How religious is she, or is she? Edit: D'OH!! Sorry about multiple posts! I kept getting errors and knowing what to do. Sorry... :( Edited November 20, 2003 by nikkan_hanil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 wow, I've never seen so many posts..... Ok. TELL HER, you love her. Then explain that you'll help her through whatever she's going through. Explain what's ok and what isn't and help her carry whatever cross God has given her right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyMoriana Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 "How religious is she" Well, she is a christian (or was) I don't really know what she thinks about it all now. I think she knows deep down what she is doing is wrong, and I don't feel uncomfortable bringing God into it, but I am afraid she might say my info is misconstrued and I don't know how to defend my stance very well. ( I have a hard time doing that in general; I don't have much of a backbone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 (edited) "How religious is she" Well, she is a christian (or was) I don't really know what she thinks about it all now. I think she knows deep down what she is doing is wrong, and I don't feel uncomfortable bringing God into it, but I am afraid she might say my info is misconstrued and I don't know how to defend my stance very well. ( I have a hard time doing that in general; I don't have much of a backbone) You both and her family are in my prayers. Maybe ask questions, that she will have to really think about. There are many factors that have played a part in this... but if she believes in God, then that might make it a little easier in helping her. Do some research before you talk to her... and when you do ask questions. Here are a few links that might help: http://www.ScriptureCatholic.com Homosexuality and Hope http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/...ity/ho0039.html Reasons to Believe http://catholiceducation.org/articles/apol...ics/ap0002.html Courage, an apostolate of the Roman Catholic Church: http://www.couragerc.net/ Various Articles http://www.catholiceducation.org/directory...lity/index.html If she does believe in God, then maybe bring up what makes something right or wrong is God. The Catholic Church teaches that those who have ssa (same sex attractions) that God is calling them to be chaste. If you can, be in person and make sure that you're very sincere. Over the phone, and by email could be bad because she can't tell your "tone". God Bless, Your Servant in Christ, ironmonk Edited November 20, 2003 by ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Lady, I think you should point her to Courage the Church's Apostolate for SSA Catholics, and show her the pertinent Catechism passages. I think it is coragerc.net I would be careful if I were you not to come off judgemental, because sometimes in our zeal to bring people to God we can turn people off even more than they were to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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