What The Floopy?!?!

[Hubertus]

A quickmeme of a 9gag.. Even worse!!!1

[PhuturePriest]

Just don't let it get to this point:

 

 

I don't really believe in the whole friend zone theory. If God wants me to marry a girl, I'm pretty sure he won't let us being friends get in the way. You should be friends with a girl first before dating her anyway. Suggesting otherwise is stupid (Not saying you were, but most do).

[Hubertus]

I don't really believe in the whole friend zone theory. If God wants me to marry a girl, I'm pretty sure he won't let us being friends get in the way. You should be friends with a girl first before dating her anyway. Suggesting otherwise is stupid (Not saying you were, but most do).

 

Well you should be friends with her yes, but I do think it's beneficial to be mindful that you don't find yourself doing things for her just because of your extra-friendly affection for her.. things that, say, you wouldn't do for a male friend of the same closeness. 

[Maggyie]

I don't think there's really anything wrong with an older man dating a younger girl or vice versa, as long as the younger party is not actually underage (hasn't gone through puberty). Princess Diana was 18 when she dated the 30 year old Prince Charles and 19 when they became engaged. Jacqueline Bouvier certainly didn't fit the "half your age plus 7" criteria when she married 36 year old John F. Kennedy. He was 12 years old when she was born. Nobody looked askance at it, because these were powerful men who clearly could take care of their wives.

 

The real problem with her beau is that he doesn't have very good prospects as a provider. He doesn't have an outstanding education and career preparation, but neither do you FP, although this is mostly because you are too young to have had much chance to really develop. This is why it's kind of a waste of time for parents to allow their daughter to date much when she's quite young, most her peers, you can't tell if they're going to amount to anything or not.

[4588686]

I don't think there's really anything wrong with an older man dating a younger girl or vice versa, as long as the younger party is not actually underage (hasn't gone through puberty). Princess Diana was 18 when she dated the 30 year old Prince Charles and 19 when they became engaged. Jacqueline Bouvier certainly didn't fit the "half your age plus 7" criteria when she married 36 year old John F. Kennedy. He was 12 years old when she was born. Nobody looked askance at it, because these were powerful men who clearly could take care of their wives.

 

 

Both of those guys were somewhat poopy human being who cheated on their wives.  

 

 

 

The real problem with her beau is that he doesn't have very good prospects as a provider. He doesn't have an outstanding education and career preparation, but neither do you FP, although this is mostly because you are too young to have had much chance to really develop. This is why it's kind of a waste of time for parents to allow their daughter to date much when she's quite young, most her peers, you can't tell if they're going to amount to anything or not.

 

 

He's trying to get into her pants.  Which would be fine.  If he were also 16 and they used protection and had an emotionally supportive relationship and she had family and friends to talk to about this.  But he's 22 and wants to take advantage of her youth and inexperience and naivety to get into her pants.  

 

 

#realtalk

[Maggyie]

Both of those guys were somewhat poopy human being who cheated on their wives.  

 

 

 

 

#realtalk

 

Yah, those two examples were, but the scenario repeats itself often enough that's it's tough to generalize (all older dudes dating younger girls are trying to take advantage). Generalizing about relationships, in general (sqee) just doesn't work.

[4588686]

Yah, those two examples were, but the scenario repeats itself often enough that's it's tough to generalize (all older dudes dating younger girls are trying to take advantage). Generalizing about relationships, in general (sqee) just doesn't work.

 

Kurt Godel once said: "All generalizations, with the possible exception of this one, are false" and I agree.  But the betting money is against this guy.  I mean I guess I'm honestly curious.  What do you really think?  I mean I really do accept your point that I could be totally wrong but do you think that I actually am wrong?  

[FutureCarmeliteClaire]

I know this is a horrible stereotype, but every time I think of a man who's WAY WAY older than the young woman (FP, I'm talking about far more than six years), I always think of that Play Boy guy... Hugh Heffner or whatever. LOL... But I think Hasan has a point about the situation.

FP, relatively unrelated to the actual matter... If I were Emily, and I happened to find this stuff you posted here, I would be miffed. Beyond miffed. Even if it ISN'T a healthy situation, it IS her person life. Obviously her sister knows about it, and at leadt I hope that if there were a danger the older sister was worried about, I'd hope she'd tell her parents. Anywho, it's one thing talking about it with a close friend or whatever, but posting it on a public forum might not be the best idea. I mean, I'd be seriously upset to the point where I wouldn't talk to someone again if I found something like this. Especially since you don't REALLY know the whole story.

(Btw, I'm only hard on you because I know you can take it. ;) )

I know it's very easy to confuse Phatmass with a group of close friends or a private message board or something, trust me. I've posted way personal stuff on here I regret. Luckily, I think that's mostly been lost in the abyss of old prayer room threads. ;)

[Maggyie]

Kurt Godel once said: "All generalizations, with the possible exception of this one, are false" and I agree.  But the betting money is against this guy.  I mean I guess I'm honestly curious.  What do you really think?  I mean I really do accept your point that I could be totally wrong but do you think that I actually am wrong?  

 

Sadly you are probably right, just because of how the world works. There are not too many guys who date far below a certain age range, who are not indulging a selfish sexual fantasy. The girl herself is interchangeable with any other female, the key thing for them is that she is young, naive and innocent.

 

I for one would not let my daughter go out with this guy just because at this point he is not positioned for success. Love conquers all, blah blah but ultimately marriage is very similar to deciding on a business merger where you are looking at economic factors and if the 2 organizations being are compatible on a strictly practical level. As she is 16 all of her peers are also mysteries in terms of what their socioeconomic lives will be so basically it is worthless to try to evaluate them as potential partners (and therefore it is a waste of time to date them).

 

I wouldn't mind if my 16 year old dated a 22 or 24 year old who was educated at the undergraduate or graduate level, a success in business, a pillar of his community, and who agreed to dates either with the family at our home or chaperoned by myself or her father. Obviously this individual would have to be coming from the same place ethically because if there was any hanky panky he could literally go to jail. But I wouldn't let my 16 year old date someone in his mid-20s who only had a high school diploma, no matter how pious of a Christian he seemed to be.

[PhuturePriest]

I know this is a horrible stereotype, but every time I think of a man who's WAY WAY older than the young woman (FP, I'm talking about far more than six years), I always think of that Play Boy guy... Hugh Heffner or whatever. LOL... But I think Hasan has a point about the situation.

FP, relatively unrelated to the actual matter... If I were Emily, and I happened to find this stuff you posted here, I would be miffed. Beyond miffed. Even if it ISN'T a healthy situation, it IS her person life. Obviously her sister knows about it, and at leadt I hope that if there were a danger the older sister was worried about, I'd hope she'd tell her parents. Anywho, it's one thing talking about it with a close friend or whatever, but posting it on a public forum might not be the best idea. I mean, I'd be seriously upset to the point where I wouldn't talk to someone again if I found something like this. Especially since you don't REALLY know the whole story.

(Btw, I'm only hard on you because I know you can take it. ;) )

I know it's very easy to confuse Phatmass with a group of close friends or a private message board or something, trust me. I've posted way personal stuff on here I regret. Luckily, I think that's mostly been lost in the abyss of old prayer room threads. ;)

 

Indeed. I was just angry and it was at night, so I wasn't thinking. I hadn't actually thought about it before, though, so thank you for pointing it out.

 

And thank you, but flattery gets you only everywhere with me. ;)

Edited December 26, 2012 by FuturePriest387

[KnightofChrist]

I was listening to a blues station the other day and a song came on called "Grandpa stole my baby", and thought of poor FP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrayzauQjwg

[jazzytakara]

My younger started fating a man who was eleven years older than her when she was 17, making him 28. He never finished high school, mooched off the government until they finally denied him welfare, drinks far too much, and does drugs. No one sees logic in this relationship, so you may not see any in Emily's. Some women get into bad situations with the wrong kind of men, I've been there. And despite how often everyone else says he's bad news, a women in love will sugar coat it as much as she can. All you can do is pray for her well being and hope for the best. That's what I have been doing for my sister. They broke up last week, but she is in communication with him already, she's thinking of taking him back. 

[4588686]

, drinks far too much, 

I thought you we listing negating qualities.  Jajajajajaja!

 

 

 

 

 

 

but she is in communication with him already, she's thinking of taking him back. 

 

Yeah.  Bad sign.  If she's talking then they probably will.  

[jazzytakara]

I thought you we listing negating qualities.  Jajajajajaja!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah.  Bad sign.  If she's talking then they probably will.  

 

I get friendly conversation, as not all relationships need to end with both parties bitter rivals, but her main logic is that she'd rather be miserable than alone, and that's why she wants him back. She has self-esteem issues. I just hate how he took her student loan and spent it on marajuana and alcohol rather than getting a job then told her to drop out of school as 'an education is a waste of time when the government can pay your bills'

[PhuturePriest]

I get friendly conversation, as not all relationships need to end with both parties bitter rivals, but her main logic is that she'd rather be miserable than alone, and that's why she wants him back. She has self-esteem issues. I just hate how he took her student loan and spent it on marajuana and alcohol rather than getting a job then told her to drop out of school as 'an education is a waste of time when the government can pay your bills'

 

He's a leech on the government and on society as a whole. The preferable thing would be to turn him in, but unfortunately your sister would probably hate you and never speak to you again, and this is not what you want or what she needs.