Livin_the_MASS Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 [b][u]FOR DUST ONLY[/u][/b] Dust I have an idea and this is the only way I know to get in touch with right now! I got to thinking! Can we please please please have a [b]Catholic Only discussion board[/b] I will give you reasons in a second. But first I'll say this, it [b]wouldn't[/b] be like the back alley not a place to vent. It will be a place to discuss things going on within the Holy Catholic Church. The rules will be the same as the Interfaith dialogue except of course it will be Catholic and Catholic discussions. It will be used to [b]BUILD UP[/b] the [b]BODY OF CHRIST[/b]. Charity should be used just like out here. This new board could be put right under Catholic Apo. . Some reasons why I am even doing this or asking for it!: Well I have seen other boards with it, and I think it is a good idea because there are certain issues that people have different opinions on things that happen out in the open and if we have a place like this to go it will bring us into unity and more ready to come out here to be in one mind and heart with Their Hearts at the Center. Their are issues within the Church that need to be discussed and a place like this will help us talk it out get all the proper information, and the hope and prayer of the board would be to bring us into unity. IF you agree and like this idea not to throw anyone out [b]I say (AT FIRST) Only Church Faithful And Up are allowed in.[/b] Yes I say Mr. and Mrs. Bro. would be OK they know whats up their on their way home I say at the top of the board---- I have somethings in my mind I would type out (like the mission of this board is to bring us to unity) after that I would put a family concencration to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, and before anyone can post they have to read it and say Amen with their name. I would say instead of being able to start new topics they are all pinned (at first anyway) you can respond to them, that would be kinda like a back alley thing! I got a list of stuff, PhatCatholic would be a great help, we could take these issues post them pin them and discuss them. Dust I really think this would be an awesome thing, since I've been here I have seen alot of things get brought up and people have made comments that it's not good for our protestant brothers and sisters to see, I agree. But see in my mind I see this new [b]Catholic Only Discussion Board[/b] as a way to bring us closer together. I will leave you this for now I have ALOT of ideas for the board so I nominate myself for one of the mods hahaha Response In the Love of Christ God Bless Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Yeah Jason, but what about someone like me? I am a catholic. But have not come fully into the church as of yet. But to discuss things with other Catholics, almost like a Catholic debate. I feel this would help me considerably. If I can ask or comment on something, and learn from other Catholics then that would be great. Because then I would learn it from a Catholic source. Dont mean to hijack your thread, but I'm hungry and want in too. Love and Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 It would be nice, but I'm against the idea of excluding non-Catholics from anything--and since the "Catholic vs Catholic" discussions usually get ugly, I think it would do more harm than good. By creating a section that only allows Catholics, we're creating a sense of "secretness" or suspicion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 [quote name='dUSt' date='May 24 2004, 10:54 AM'] It would be nice, but I'm against the idea of excluding non-Catholics from anything--and since the "Catholic vs Catholic" discussions usually get ugly, I think it would do more harm than good. By creating a section that only allows Catholics, we're creating a sense of "secretness" or suspicion. [/quote] What about leaving it open like the back alley they have to get the code from you! You don't think if we keep the same rules like out here with a board mission statement to heal the Church and a consencration to Jesus and Mary would help. I'm sorry if it came across as secret that isn't my goal, The reason I called Catholics only is because I didn't want anyone out of the Church using the discussion against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 Say if it gets ugly they get blocked for a day instead of warning something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 Or call the board Catholic Discussions and under it put any putting down of the Church will be deleted or banned from this section. Just ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Over the years, it has been my experience that Catholic versus Catholic debate and argument has been the most vitrolic, hateful, and destructive communication I've seen at PhatMass. There are other places for that. I don't believe PhatMass needs it or the majority of members would benefit from it. It's dUSt's call though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 Dust I couldn't tell in your post if that was a no, or can we try to come up with ideas for it to try to keep it clean. In my mind it was to heal the Church not divide, my opinion is if things are put off in the back burner boiling they are going to come up sometime and spill over. I don't want hate out of this I'm already sad it was said. Well Dust when you respond back and if you said no sorry for posting more, but if not are we leaving this open for discussion to maybe find different ways to approach a new section. Thanks God Bless Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 [quote name='Jason' date='May 24 2004, 11:04 AM'] I'm sorry if it came across as secret that isn't my goal, The reason I called Catholics only is because I didn't want anyone out of the Church using the discussion against us. [/quote] Exactly. If you feel that it will result in the type of discussion that could be used against us (the Church's unity), then it has no place here. I'm curious to know if it actually has the desired results on those other boards you mention. Catholic teaching is pretty well laid--there's not really much to debate or discuss. Either you follow Church teaching, or you don't--it's pretty simple. Good idea, but I don't see it working. So if you're looking for a definite answer, then it is no. If for nothing else, but to relieve my stress level. The Catholic vs Catholic discussions have been the only thing at phatmass that ever had me considering closing the whole place down and persuing my ministry in different ways. The bad, in my mind, far outweighs the good that would come from such a thing. Remember--we've got 4 years of experience at this. haha If it truly is just a "discussion" then I don't have a problem with it being discussed in Open Mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 [quote]I'm curious to know if it actually has the desired results on those other boards you mention. [/quote] I don't know really, I just seen them. Tuff subject, I didn't know, sorry! God Bless Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 [quote]Exactly. If you feel that it will result in the type of discussion that could be used against us (the Church's unity), then it has no place here.[/quote] The things I had in mind where ways to defend against the sex scandle things like that. Not on being obeident to the Catholic Church just to make this clear! God Bless Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 I know. But from experience it will degrade into stuff not beneficial to the Church. God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Not beneficial to the Church? Is it better for the Church to ignore these debates? The Church has never taken that approach. Debate it and the truth will be known. As far as non-catholics are concerned, I agree, these debates can be scandalous in some sense. But it would be better for them to figure out that the Church is in the midst of a "civil war" BEFORE they join, rather than find out after they get here. That will only lead to the situation New York City found itself in during the 1860's. Not a pretty site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 [quote name='popestpiusx' date='May 24 2004, 04:26 PM'] Not beneficial to the Church? Is it better for the Church to ignore these debates? The Church has never taken that approach. Debate it and the truth will be known. As far as non-catholics are concerned, I agree, these debates can be scandalous in some sense. But it would be better for them to figure out that the Church is in the midst of a "civil war" BEFORE they join, rather than find out after they get here. That will only lead to the situation New York City found itself in during the 1860's. Not a pretty site. [/quote] dUSt is morally responsible for this site. He is not responsible, nor can he control, what is discussed generally by the Church. This is a lay ministry. Besides, some content and discussion isn't beneficial because of the tone and nature. I personally don't believe the attitudes and agenda of the Voice of the Faithful are for the benefit of the Church, but they are Catholic. Give dUSt a break. He's been doing this for years. How long have you been posting here? Do you know everything that he's experienced? dUSt is not obliged to provide a phorum for every and any voice because dUSt shares some responsibilty for what other people say here, even if he doesn't agree. If dUSt is partly responsible, then let him deal with his responsibilities the way he sees fit. If you or anyone else feels like this phorum is not what you want it, and dUSt feels this phourm is what he wants it, you lose. It's not a difficult concept to grasp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 [quote name='popestpiusx' date='May 24 2004, 04:26 PM'] Not beneficial to the Church? Is it better for the Church to ignore these debates? The Church has never taken that approach. Debate it and the truth will be known. As far as non-catholics are concerned, I agree, these debates can be scandalous in some sense. But it would be better for them to figure out that the Church is in the midst of a "civil war" BEFORE they join, rather than find out after they get here. That will only lead to the situation New York City found itself in during the 1860's. Not a pretty site. [/quote] The Church is not in a state of "Civil War". That's ridiculous. There are small groups who call themselves "Catholic" that are in a war against the Church, yes--this is nothing new. Phatmass will not act as a battlefield for those groups who refuse to accept the authority of the magisterium. Peace be unto you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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