Not The Philosopher Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Distributism is something which I've heard bandied about a bit, and have a vague understanding of - it being a "third way" between socialism and capitalism and all. But there has to be more to it than just being another flavor of social democracy, I'm guessing. So I was wondering if someone more in the know here could give me some helpful links and whatnot to help me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 The Church and the Market by Thomas E. Woods, Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 (edited) [url="http://distributistreview.com/mag/test-2/"]http://distributistr...com/mag/test-2/[/url] This site is a great resource on distributism. Nihil, isn't Tom Woods pretty opposed to distributism? Edited November 27, 2012 by Amppax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 [quote name='Amppax' timestamp='1353995028' post='2517520'] Nihil, isn't Tom Woods pretty opposed to Distributism? [/quote] [img]http://www.gagful.com/uploads/2012_1/1327196940_FOILED_AGAIN_DARN_gag.jpg[/img] Yeah, there is a chapter in that book in which he lays out several objections to distributism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I'm not a distributist, although the basic premise as its been explained to me appeals to me. Something I need to study more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 (edited) [b]The Outline of Sanity[/b] by GK Chesterton Here's a good review: [url="http://distributistreview.com/mag/2010/12/the-outline-of-sanity-2/"]http://distributistr...ne-of-sanity-2/[/url] Most of The Distributist Review is quite good: [url="http://www.distributistreview.com"]http://www.distributistreview.com[/url] Here's their recommended reading list: [url="http://distributistreview.com/mag/test-2/recommended-reading/"]http://distributistr...mended-reading/[/url] A few things on that reading list can be read online (the links are included there) but not all of them. Heinrich Pesch is a good one from that list ([b]Ethics and the National Economy[/b]) (here's a good review of him: [url="http://www.newoxfordreview.org/reviews.jsp?did=0205-storck"]http://www.newoxford...did=0205-storck[/url] that's the economic school that much of Catholic Social Teaching has looked to)... and also maybe [b]Economics as if God Mattered[/b] by Dr. Rupert Ederer as a pretty good primer on the Catholic Social Teaching that is ignored by the Catholic proponents of Liberal Capitalism (like Tom Woods). There's a lot out there, but really to be deep in Catholic Social Teaching is to cease to become a Liberal Capitalist, and to become some degree of Distributist. Edited November 27, 2012 by Aloysius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 [quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1354000642' post='2517571'] There's a lot out there, but really to be deep in Catholic Social Teaching is to cease to become a Liberal Capitalist, and to become some degree of Distributist. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the171 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Capitalism and socialism are so mainstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Well, it is true man . Maybe replace the word "distributist" with "solidarist" or something, which is why I said "varying degrees". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 [quote name='the171' timestamp='1354000775' post='2517573'] [s]Capitalism[/s] Corporatism and socialism are so mainstream. [/quote] FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 [quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1354000642' post='2517571'] There's a lot out there, but really to be deep in Catholic Social Teaching is to cease to become a Liberal Capitalist, and to become some degree of Distributist. [/quote] You misspelled socialism. BAZINGA! In all seriousness, I don't see how it's really other than a basically democratic socialist movement put into Catholic language. But my reading of it was pretty quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 [quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1354000855' post='2517574'] Well, it is true man . Maybe replace the word "distributist" with "solidarist" or something, which is why I said "varying degrees". [/quote] I am willing to accept that distributism is at least acceptable for a Catholic, but you will not even afford me the same latitude. Makes me want to flip tables in frustration. (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻â”â”» Well when I establish my neo-feudal paleolibertarian utopia, I promise not to have you exiled. Even though I know I cannot expect the same courtesy from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the171 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Distributism is Capitalism with a heart. ahhahahahhaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1354000876' post='2517575'] FTFY [/quote] Why not just describe yourself as an extreme libertarian rather than trying to morph the traditional meaning of 'anarchism' and 'capitalism'? That's not intended to be a sleight. I'm also not convinced that in the socio-economic system you and Winchester adhere too that monopoly would be prevented from developing as I think Nozick has argued pretty well. But I guess that's for another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1354001058' post='2517577'] I am willing to accept that distributism is at least acceptable for a Catholic, but you will not even afford me the same latitude. Makes me want to flip tables in frustration. (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻â”â”» Well when I establish my neo-feudal paleolibertarian utopia, I promise not to have you exiled. Even though I know I cannot expect the same courtesy from you. [/quote] I won't exile you mate, but I also won't let you become a tycoon. sorry bro, u mad? [quote name='the171' timestamp='1354001121' post='2517578'] Distributism is Capitalism with a heart. ahhahahahhaa [/quote] I am relatively okay with this characterization, as Chesterton said, the problem of Capitalism is not too many capitalists, but too few. it's certainly a bit more than that, but it would all depend on your definition of capitalism. [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1354001053' post='2517576'] You misspelled socialism. BAZINGA! In all seriousness, I don't see how it's really other than a basically democratic socialist movement put into Catholic language. But my reading of it was pretty quick. [/quote] It is altogether much more radical than that, but also much more opposed to socialism it's hard to pin down for those who are too used to the usual binaries. there are of course overlaps in everything, but I don't think it's quite fair to characterize it as being any kind of socialism, is is very much opposed to socialism actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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