Anastasia13 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1353823187' post='2516234'] You're taking something very silly seriously. You might have a different definition of culture, though. I don't think it's controversial, at all. It's just nonsense. Culture includes all the little social niceties, manner of dress, dances, songs, croutons like that. And it's all silliness. Some of it might have a practical function, but things like not showing the bottom of your foot, or wearing kilts, or setting table a certain way is all nonsense. I indulge in some of it, but it's not serious. [/quote] [QUOTE=]In the 20th century, "culture" emerged as a central concept in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropology"]anthropology[/url], encompassing the range of human phenomena that cannot be attributed to genetic inheritance. Specifically, the term "culture" in American anthropology had two meanings: (1) the evolved human capacity to classify and represent experiences with [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbol"]symbols[/url], and to act imaginatively and creatively; and (2) the distinct ways that people living in different parts of the world classified and represented their experiences, and acted creatively. [b]Distinctions are currently made between the physical artifacts created by a [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society"]society[/url], its so-called [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_culture"]material culture[/url] and everything else,[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture#cite_note-Macionis.2C_Gerber_2010_53-3"][3][/url][/sup] the intangibles such as language, customs, etc. that are the main referent of the term "culture".[/b][/QUOTE] There are also aspects such as power distance, high or low context, individualism vs. collectivism, uncertainty avoidance, and values orientations affect a lot of how people behave and interaction. Understanding how different cultures relate to those in addition to the superficial things you mentioned allows a person to not only get along, but predict behavior in order to be more successful when working with them, and in your case, better screw with them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture [url="http://www.sagepub.com/upm-data/42958_2_The_Cultural_Context.pdf"]http://www.sagepub.c...ral_Context.pdf[/url] Other source~communications class. Edited November 25, 2012 by Light and Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theculturewarrior Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 (edited) Trying to sow dissent among the sheep by talking about racism.... that is not what culture is for and I am not for it either.. Culture is meant to be relished and celebrated. I am not talking about social niceties. I don't know which fork is the salad fork and I don't care, but I can appreciate food from all over the world. I can talk about the news with people from all over the world, not just the U.S. Culture is a lens that God has given us to perceive everything, even our Catholic Faith. For that reason, Aloysius (to whom my comment was originally addressed) I receommend giving the Dutch language a chance. Every language is beautiful, because it is an expression of the human imagination. You just have to get the point where you are able to see it through Flemish eyes. [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1353823403' post='2516239'] Culture is something that is meant to be sc[color=#000000]r[/color]ewed around with. [/quote] Edited November 25, 2012 by theculturewarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 [quote name='theculturewarrior' timestamp='1353828746' post='2516262'] I am not talking about social niceties. [/quote] Excellent, because that is the farthest thing from what I am doing at this precise moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1353828960' post='2516264'] Excellent, because that is the farthest thing from what I am doing at this precise moment. [/quote] This is anything but the norm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 [quote name='Light and Truth' timestamp='1353830680' post='2516271'] This is anything but the norm? [/quote] Depends on the subject. I would say it is nearly a 50-50 split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 I'm just kidding around here tcw, I have a bachelors in Anthropology and I'm actually getting a master's degree in Anthropology right now and I am fully appreciative of cultures both the popular way the term is used and all the various ways it's constructed in different theories and deconstructed in others (really understanding the concept is much more complex than the wikipedia article would have it). If I in any way led you to believe I was serious about this thread, I apologize Like I said at the beginning, any annoyance I ever have at Dutch is totally based on culture-shock, homesickness, tiredness and hunger while waiting in line for food lol. To the modern reflexive ethnographer, acknowledging these things keeps you from getting a false sense of objectivity that blinds you to the subjectivity that you can never escape. And of course seeing as I don't even know the girl that well, this was just my silly way of telling phatmass I had a date and inviting all the advice and jeers of the phat-masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Like I said: Silliness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1353831140' post='2516277'] Depends on the subject. I would say it is nearly a 50-50 split. [/quote] Ok, that's about what I figured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 [quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1353831272' post='2516278']culture-shock, [/quote] I figure a little culture shock every now and then is good for us. Forces us to grow and expand our ideas about humanity, human life, and interacting with this strange beings we call people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 [quote name='Light and Truth' timestamp='1353838378' post='2516287'] I figure a little culture shock every now and then is good for us. Forces us to grow and expand our ideas about humanity, human life, and interacting with this strange beings we call people. [/quote] Light and Truth is deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonNovi Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1353721062' post='2515496'] Ask if she likes the carillon. If not, dump her. A Fleming who doesn't love the carillon should be hanged. [/quote] Yep, so true You must have been here already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theculturewarrior Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Okay, well in that case, if you read French and she likes poetry, there is a Belgian poet named Charles Van Lerberghe who is out of this world. Absolutely incredible. Most of his stuff is in the public domain, and you can find it in free ebook libraries. If not, try Gallica. [quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1353831272' post='2516278'] I'm just kidding around here tcw, I have a bachelors in Anthropology and I'm actually getting a master's degree in Anthropology right now and I am fully appreciative of cultures both the popular way the term is used and all the various ways it's constructed in different theories and deconstructed in others (really understanding the concept is much more complex than the wikipedia article would have it). If I in any way led you to believe I was serious about this thread, I apologize Like I said at the beginning, any annoyance I ever have at Dutch is totally based on culture-shock, homesickness, tiredness and hunger while waiting in line for food lol. To the modern reflexive ethnographer, acknowledging these things keeps you from getting a false sense of objectivity that blinds you to the subjectivity that you can never escape. And of course seeing as I don't even know the girl that well, this was just my silly way of telling phatmass I had a date and inviting all the advice and jeers of the phat-masses. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theculturewarrior Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Here it is. http://archive.org/details/lachansondevepre00lerb [quote name='theculturewarrior' timestamp='1353898360' post='2516650'] Okay, well in that case, if you read French and she likes poetry, there is a Belgian poet named Charles Van Lerberghe who is out of this world. Absolutely incredible. Most of his stuff is in the public domain, and you can find it in free ebook libraries. If not, try Gallica. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 [quote name='NonNovi' timestamp='1353889291' post='2516493'] Yep, so true You must have been here already. [/quote] No, but I am an American beiaardier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonNovi Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1353935285' post='2516914'] No, but I am an American [b]beiaardier[/b]. [/quote] The first Dutch word in this thread (and it wasn't said by me), what is Aloysius going to think of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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