Freedom Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 [b] [size="4"][url="http://now.msn.com/15-states-start-petitons-to-leave-the-usa"][color="#4c0b0b"][i]Anarchy in the USA?[/i][/color][/url] Many feel they could be better off without being deluged daily, with the government's horrific and endless laws.[/size][/b] [b] [size="4"]SUBJECT: UPDATED: 33 States File Petitions to “Peacefully Secede from United States,â€[/size][/b] [b] [size="4"]THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE 1860 AND 1861 WHEN ELEVEN OF THE FIFTEEN SOUTHERN STATES SECEDED FROM THE UNIONS. THAT SHOWS AN UNDENIABLE PRECEDENT! [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession_in_the_United_States"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession_in_the_United_States[/url][/size][/b] [b] UPDATED: 33 States File Petitions to “Peacefully Secede from United States,†Texas Petition Has 78,370 Signatures[/b] [img]http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/be/6e/be6e3ab1a1a93d03d7a58fbba0655ebc.jpg[/img] [i]Updated Headlines for Tuesday, November 13th 2012[/i] [b] <a href="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; cursor: pointer; " target="_blank" title="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions">[b][color="#4c0b0b"]View Links to All Current States’ Petitions here.[/color][/b][/b] [b] [url="http://conservativeread.com/texas-secession-to-be-reviewed-by-white-house/"][b][color="#4c0b0b"]BREAKING: Texas Secession Petition to Be Reviewed by White House[/color][/b][/url][/b] [b] [url="http://www.texastribune.org/texas-issues/secession-controversy/white-house-petition-renews-secession-talk/"][color="#4c0b0b"]Petitioners Renew Talk of Texas Secession[/color][/url][/b] [list] [*][b][url="http://iroots.org/2012/11/11/18-states-petition-to-secede-from-us-links-included/"][color="#4c0b0b"]33 states have filed secession petitions[/color][/url] as of Tuesday at about 9:30 a.m. pacific time.[/b] [*][b]The Texas petition now has more than 74,000 signatures[/b] [/list] [b]At least 33 states are presently represented by secession petitions.[/b] As of 12:45 pm pacific time, November 13th, the following are the 33 states petition links and their signature counts: [i][b][url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-louisiana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/1wrvtngl"][color="#4c0b0b"]Louisiana[/color][/url], 29,598; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B"][color="#4c0b0b"]Texas[/color][/url], 78,370; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-florida-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/D87Rv7yJ"][color="#4c0b0b"]Florida[/color][/url], 23,399; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-alabama-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/2TvhJSSC"][color="#4c0b0b"]Alabama[/color][/url], 21,682; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-north-carolina-withdraw-united-states-and-create-its-own-new-government/rx1KDYTs"][color="#4c0b0b"]North Carolina[/color][/url], 20,469; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-kentucky-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/RskKYzB6"][color="#4c0b0b"]Kentucky[/color][/url], 13,185; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-mississippi-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-governmen/9M9rdL8n"][color="#4c0b0b"]Mississippi[/color][/url], 13,206;[url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-indiana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/51jYVZ5L"][color="#4c0b0b"]Indiana[/color][/url], 14,002; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-north-dakota-withdraw-usa-and-create-its-own-new-government/lqPGbvVl"][color="#4c0b0b"]North Dakota[/color][/url], 9,051; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-montana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/l76dWhwN"][color="#4c0b0b"]Montana[/color][/url], 10,124; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-colorado-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/lWDshfl3"][color="#4c0b0b"]Colorado[/color][/url], 15,284; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-oregon-vote-and-leave-union-peacefully-and-remain-ally-nation/X3kWX8kF"][color="#4c0b0b"]Oregon[/color][/url], 10,829; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-new-jersey-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/RYvjgdDT"][color="#4c0b0b"]New Jersey[/color][/url], 10,374; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-new-york-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/RSBkpCf9"][color="#4c0b0b"]New York[/color][/url], 11,620;[url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-sc-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/KL6qrls8"][color="#4c0b0b"]South Carolina[/color][/url], 16,421; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-arkansas-withdraw-united-states-and-create-its-own-new-government/k6LhPsBX"][color="#4c0b0b"]Arkansas[/color][/url], 15,805; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-georgia-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/pgJ9JLY3"][color="#4c0b0b"]Georgia[/color][/url], 22,384; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-missouri-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/Vd92R3YG"][color="#4c0b0b"]Missouri[/color][/url] 13,297; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-tennessee-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/7xsNwkJ8"][color="#4c0b0b"]Tennessee[/color][/url], 21,055; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-michigan-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/022SsMWp"][color="#4c0b0b"]Michigan[/color][/url], 13,947; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-oklahoma-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/Z0G2vNtF"][color="#4c0b0b"]Oklahoma[/color][/url], 12,418; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-nevada-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/3ff8v0HR"][color="#4c0b0b"]Nevada[/color][/url], 6,763; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-arizona-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/GrZPNqcX"][color="#4c0b0b"]Arizona, [/color][/url]13,463; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-pennsylvania-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/0d7vMsmb"][color="#4c0b0b"]Pennsylvania[/color][/url], 8,552; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-delaware-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/Mbz8QFQr"][color="#4c0b0b"]Delaware[/color][/url], 5,210; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-south-dakota-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/FDs7lQJZ"][color="#4c0b0b"]South Dakota[/color][/url], 2,687; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-nebraska-withdraw-united-states-and-create-its-own-new-government/Jf5xVXrS"][color="#4c0b0b"]Nebraska[/color][/url], 3,085; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-kansas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/k96nJrY6"][color="#4c0b0b"]Kansas[/color][/url], 4,019; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-alaskans-free-and-open-election-decide-whether-or-not-alaska-should-secede-united-states/T7mz4lzx"][color="#4c0b0b"]Alaska[/color][/url], 4,071; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-california-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/Rfg4ZhhC"][color="#4c0b0b"]California[/color][/url], 6,989; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-utah-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/8TlFpQS3"][color="#4c0b0b"]Utah[/color][/url], 4,966; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-west-virginia-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-govern/VkP6lCFT"][color="#4c0b0b"]West Virginia[/color][/url], 2,990; [url="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-wyoming-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BLQnDS9w"][color="#4c0b0b"]Wyoming[/color][/url], 5,143.[/b][/i] [size=4]It’s been a hectic 48 hours. Sunday afternoon I spotted a YT video that reported citizens from 15 states had petitioned to secede from the United States. “Odd news item,†was my only thought. I posted it. 24 hours later by yesterday evening, the list of petitions had grown to 30 states. [url="http://iroots.org/2012/11/11/18-states-petition-to-secede-from-us-links-included/"][color="#4c0b0b"]This morning it’s 33 states[/color][/url].[/size] [size=4]The sudden state secession petition phenomenon may or may not mean anything other than a very large “pay attention to what we are saying†political foot stomp by conservatives, [url="http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/11/secession-petitions-flood-white-house-website-149291.html"][color="#4c0b0b"]but the civil action certainly caught fire fast enough. [/color][/url]Texas had acquired their required 25,000 votes within a day and their petition now has more than 74,000 signatures.[/size] [size=4]I would advise all who are naming calling this secession drive as “racist†to drop the dead tired adolescent name calling. Anyone who can balance a personal checkbook knows our nation is teetering on the edge of absolute fiscal catastrophe and that has nothing whatsoever to do with race. It does have everything to do with GOVERNANCE [ or the lack thereof. ] I have no reason to believe that Barack Obama will do anything other than continue to turn on the Federal printing presses for four more years to inject enough money into the economy to put on the show of a false economic recovery. I would surmise that many fiscal conservatives, like myself, might sign a secession petition just to make a statement that spending more borrowed money at the multi-trillion dollar level is a recipe for the death of the nation.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I signed mine a couple days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1352850906' post='2509495'] I signed mine a couple days ago. [/quote] I'll try to believe this lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I've been wanting to fight in a revolution for a while now. Maybe I should buy my arms while I am still able. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Posted November 14, 2012 Author Share Posted November 14, 2012 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1352851179' post='2509501'] I've been wanting to fight in a revolution for a while now. Maybe I should buy my arms while I am still able. [/quote] Who's stopping you from fighting, it's still a free country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I don't see why this necessarily has to start a civil war. Texas has and has always had the right to secede from the Union. That is on the books. It can break away at any time it wants to and there is nothing the government can do about that. If the government declares war on Texas for seceding that shows how corrupt the system really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) The Texas one is poorly written. FP, all states have the right to leave. The nationalists will not teach this in school. Read Kevin Gutzman. Not an anarchist. Edited November 14, 2012 by Winchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadrePioOfPietrelcino Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I saw this building and coming since 2002, The political tenses in this country are indeed high. The next step I would not be surprised for the petition signers to be targeted under some Patriot Act provision at least on some level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1352854403' post='2509531'] The Texas one is poorly written. FP, all states have the right to leave. The nationalists will not teach this in school. Read Kevin Gutzman. Not an anarchist. [/quote] I agree. As far as I know Texas has the strongest case, but I believe all States can secede whenever they want to, and I don't see why this has to lead to a war. Talk about a messed up and abusive relationship. The government is one twisted husband. If we don't leave the government abuses us and if we do leave apparently that leads to the government getting angry and starting a war. Talk about a relationship that needs a good psychologist to check on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixpence Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 RI has one now too. The silly NJ news coverage that I heard about this today made it sound like there was only one for NJ and the it was mainly being signed by other states Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaPetiteSoeur Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 This whole thing seems so ridiculous to me. Yeah, our presidential candidate choices weren't the greatest. The guy many didn't want, was [i]still voted into office by the electoral college and the popular vote. [/i] Louisiana survived the election of 1991 (the race from Hell) when the main contenders were Edwin Edwards (a crook) and David Duke (a known white supremacist and anti-semite). They survived. America will too. This will all blow over. Texas has over 25 million residents and only 80,000 people signed the secession petition (and not all of them from Texas!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the171 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 But Louisiana just survives everything. It's the Cajuns that keep us together. Cajuns will keep our great nation alive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiiMichael Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I don't think I care enough either way to be on either side. I'm just excited to see how things turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 [quote name='the171' timestamp='1352863714' post='2509638'] But Louisiana just survives everything. It's the Cajuns that keep us together. [/quote] That's because everyone has to shut up and concentrate to understand what they're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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