dUSt Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Ron Paul 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Napolitano / Woods 2016. [img]http://marketplayground.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Judge-Napolitano.jpg[/img][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bf/Tom_Woods_by_Gage_Skidmore_3.jpg/220px-Tom_Woods_by_Gage_Skidmore_3.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oremoose Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Bidden As The top dog?? lolZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Biden running for president? He would start World War III by accidentally cursing at foreign leaders when trying to greet them in their language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1352271135' post='2505578'] Biden running for president? He would start World War III by accidentally cursing at foreign leaders when trying to greet them in their language. [/quote] You think he would actually make the effort to greet them in their own language? He would curse them in good old American. If it is good enough for America, it is good enough for them darn it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1352271245' post='2505580'] You think he would actually make the effort to greet them in their own language? He would curse them in good old American. If it is good enough for America, it is good enough for them darn it! [/quote] Ronald Reagan tried to greet Germans when he was president. He mispronounced one part of the word, and instead of a greeting it translated into "I like jelly doughnuts." That's a true story. Look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1352271368' post='2505584'] Ronald Reagan tried to greet Germans when he was president. He mispronounced one part of the word, and instead of a greeting it translated into "I like jelly doughnuts." That's a true story. Look it up. [/quote] I have read before that that story in particular is badly misinterpreted by amateur linguists. I will try to find the article I am thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1352271463' post='2505588'] I have read before that that story in particular is badly misinterpreted by amateur linguists. I will try to find the article I am thinking of. [/quote] I am an anarchist, so I will defy what you say no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Here is my preliminary results: Number one, I think you were thinking of JFK when he said "Ich bin ein Berliner." The 'typical' story goes like this: [indent=1] John F. Kennedy's famous words "Ich bin ein Berliner" created confused reactions among his German audience. What he meant, of course, was "I am a citizen of Berlin". What he actually said came closer to "I am a doughnut". Because the translation followed the English construction word for word, it included the article "ein" for "a". "Ein berliner," in German, is a type of cruller - a flat doughnut.[/indent] Here is a Snopes entry that debunks the common narrative: http://www.snopes.com/language/misxlate/berliner.asp Apparently the speech was translated and edited by a native Berliner, who presumably would have known about such a simple misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Further support: As German professor Reinhold Aman stated about this:[indent] “Ich bin ein Berliner means ‘I am a Berliner’ or ‘a male person/native of Berlin’ and absolutely nothing else! … No intelligent native speaker of German tittered in Berlin when J.F.K. spoke, just as no native speaker of German, or one who does know this language, would titter if someone said, ‘Ich bin ein Wiener’, or Hamburger or Frankfurter.â€[/indent] Yet another linguist, Jürgen Eichhoff, in his paper covering the misconception stated, “‘Ich bin ein Berliner’ is not only correct, but the one and only correct way of expressing in German what the President intended to say.†Read more at [url="http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/04/john-f-kennedys-statement-ich-bin-ein-berliner-was-not-interpreted-as-i-am-a-jelly-filled-doughnut/#dgEKUutyUFwY1Xxk.99"]http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/04/john-f-kennedys-statement-ich-bin-ein-berliner-was-not-interpreted-as-i-am-a-jelly-filled-doughnut/#dgEKUutyUFwY1Xxk.99[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle_eye222001 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='Basilisa Marie' timestamp='1352269342' post='2505557'] Ron Paul 2016. [/quote] RAND PAUL 2016! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1352271824' post='2505595'] Further support: As German professor Reinhold Aman stated about this: [indent=1] “Ich bin ein Berliner means ‘I am a Berliner’ or ‘a male person/native of Berlin’ and absolutely nothing else! … No intelligent native speaker of German tittered in Berlin when J.F.K. spoke, just as no native speaker of German, or one who does know this language, would titter if someone said, ‘Ich bin ein Wiener’, or Hamburger or Frankfurter.â€[/indent] Yet another linguist, Jürgen Eichhoff, in his paper covering the misconception stated, “‘Ich bin ein Berliner’ is not only correct, but the one and only correct way of expressing in German what the President intended to say.†Read more at [url="http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/04/john-f-kennedys-statement-ich-bin-ein-berliner-was-not-interpreted-as-i-am-a-jelly-filled-doughnut/#dgEKUutyUFwY1Xxk.99"]http://www.todayifou...UutyUFwY1Xxk.99[/url] [/quote] Overruled. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eqM4iqfX-I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Your insistence on using the c[color=#000000]r[/color]appy version of that song undermines an otherwise airtight argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1352272025' post='2505598'] Your insistence on using the c[color=#000000]r[/color]appy version of that song undermines an otherwise airtight argument. [/quote] I'm sorry, I don't like the Sex Pistols. Motley Crue is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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