3 Days And 3 Nights Re-visited

[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='Mark of the Cross' timestamp='1352280330' post='2505627']
I had a look at the rock that is aledged to have been Moses spring. Seems the altar rock moves around. It's horizontal in one and in another at an almost identical camera point is tilted. And the small stack obviously placed there are missing in other photos. The pictures are proof of nothing except that there are rocks in that locality. I have rocks in my garden also. Rocks are nice. The submerged pictures appear to show wheels sitting on a sandy bottom. This would be unusual after all this time don't you think? And why have they not been recovered for examination and confirmation? Like the pictures of Atlantis I find them unbelievable! Also you haven't told me why spell check doesn't work even though it is set to 'on' in Firefox. So you haven't told all the truth.
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Here are more Pictures and Video for the doubting Thomas in you. God Asked me to share this with you. Enjoy!

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18gvJwx8VyI&feature=related[/media]



[quote]You also use this to challenge Christs statement that Hell will not prevail over his Church.[/quote]

I don't challenge the above statement. I affirm it. If the Roman Church is not providing Truth about God, Hell has prevailed against the Roman Church and the Roman Church is not working for God.


Blessings!

Edited November 8, 2012 by todd_vetter33

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='Papist' timestamp='1352386403' post='2506527']
I never realized the truth until I saw it in green and blue color text. Thanks Todd for setting me straight.
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I thought I was the only one! So this is what it feels like when doves cry...

[Mark of the Cross]

Sorry, but you play with words like a fourth grader. God brought me to Christianity through the Catholic Church. This has it's roots in Judaism, but apart from that I'm not all that interested in the Jewish religion. I hold no contempt for other religions because as jesus said[i] And other sheep I have, that are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd. [[url="http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=50&ch=10&l=16#x"]John 10:16[/url]] [[url="http://drbo.org/x/d?b=lvb&bk=50&ch=10&l=16#x"]Latin[/url]] [url="http://www.drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=50&ch=10&l=17#x"][17][/url][/i] The Catholic Church teaches that salvation is written in heart. That is, all the just who have served God by their desire, in ignorance of truth, shall be raised up. So no matter how ignorant I am, I have endevoured to find truth to the best of my ability and thus am saved already. Holding a generalised dislike or claiming absolute falseness for an entire valid religion based on the behaviour of some is a judgement. And you will be judged by the measure with which you judge. I do hope and pray you are able to remove the chip from your shoulder and turn your attention to Gods work. Go find some in need and do good works!

[quote name='Papist' timestamp='1352386403' post='2506527']
I never realized the truth until I saw it in green and blue color text. Thanks Todd for setting me straight.
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Gotta have some way to make a boring chart look interesting.

Edited November 8, 2012 by Mark of the Cross

[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='Mark of the Cross' timestamp='1352415696' post='2506713']
Sorry, but you play with words like a fourth grader. God brought me to Christianity through the Catholic Church. This has it's roots in Judaism, but apart from that I'm not all that interested in the Jewish religion. I hold no contempt for other religions because as jesus said[i] And other sheep I have, that are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd. [[url="http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=50&ch=10&l=16#x"]John 10:16[/url]] [[url="http://drbo.org/x/d?b=lvb&bk=50&ch=10&l=16#x"]Latin[/url]] [url="http://www.drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=50&ch=10&l=17#x"][17][/url][/i] The Catholic Church teaches that salvation is written in heart. That is, all the just who have served God by their desire, in ignorance of truth, shall be raised up. So no matter how ignorant I am, I have endevoured to find truth to the best of my ability and thus am saved already. Holding a generalised dislike or claiming absolute falseness for an entire valid religion based on the behaviour of some is a judgement. And you will be judged by the measure with which you judge. I do hope and pray you are able to remove the chip from your shoulder and turn your attention to Gods work. Go find some in need and do good works!


Gotta have some way to make a boring chart look interesting.
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God Does not bring men to Christianity. That's like saying God brings men to confusion, myths, and legends. God brings People to him (truth) should they seek to know Truth. There are the true worshippers of God in spirit and in truth; then there are those who are decieved to believe in God in less than in spirit and in truth; then you have those who are simply deceived to not believe in God by those who are deceived to believe in God in less than in spirit and in truth.

Those who do not believe in God are no worse off than those deceived to believe in God in less than in spirit and in truth. A perpetual state of death is still death. Christianity is a myth based on Judaism and a majority blending of Paganism.

To know God to the best of your ability is to learn the Law Jesus fulfilled and taught others to also fulfill if they want to have the Gospel of Jesus and love God above all.

It's recorded in Catholic Doctrine, in Revelations, that those who keep the Commandments have the testimony of Jesus. Those are the men and women who have the gospel of Jesus and are saved. Salvation is in the heart when the Law of God is written there in spirit and in truth after true repentance is established.

The Roman Church teaches men to break the Law of God by Tradition, doctrine and worship practices. How are they repenting of sin?

God Says it's time for me to dust off the proverbial shoes and move on. If you can't see how Christian doctrine and Christian tradition causes you to break the law. God will be far from your eyes and salvation a dead letter to you in this life. Better luck on the next.


[size=4][b][color=#000000]The Regeneration Of The Soul[/color][/b][/size]

[size=4][color=#000000]JESUS sat in the porch of the [/color][/size][size=3][color=#000000][size=4]Temple[/size][size=4], and some came to learn his doctrine, and one [/size][/color][/size][size=4][color=#000000]said unto him, Master, what teachest thou concerning life? And he said unto them, Blessed are they who suffer many experiences, for they shall be made perfect through suffering: they shall be as the angels of God in Heaven and shall die no more, neither shall they be born any more, for death and birth have no more dominion over them. They who have suffered and overcome shall be made Pillars in the [/color][/size][size=3][color=#000000][size=4]Temple[/size][size=4] of my God, and they shall go out no more. Verily I say unto you, except ye be born again of water and of fire, ye cannot see the [/size][size=4]kingdom[/size][size=4] of [/size][size=4]God[/size][size=4]. And a certain Rabbi (Nicodemus) came unto him by night for fear of the Jews, and said unto him. How can a man be born again when he is old? can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born again? Jesus answered, Verily I say unto you except a man be born again of flesh and of spirit, he cannot enter into the [/size][size=4]kingdom[/size][size=4] of [/size][size=4]God[/size][size=4]. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and ye hear [/size][/color][/size][size=4][color=#000000]the sound thereof, but cannot tell whence it cometh or whither it goeth. The light shineth from the East even unto the West; out of the darkness, the Sun ariseth and goeth down into darkness again; so is it with man, from the ages unto the ages. When it cometh from the darkness, it is that he hath lived before, and when it goeth down again into darkness, it is that he may rest for a little, and thereafter again exist. So through many changes must ye be made perfect, as it is written in the book of Job, I am a wanderer, changing place after place and house after house, until I come unto the City and Mansion which is eternal. And Nicodemus said unto him, How can these things be? And Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a teacher in [/color][/size][size=3][color=#000000][size=4]Israel[/size][size=4], and understandeth not these things? Verily we speak that which we do know, and bear witness to that which we have seen, and ye [/size][/color][/size][size=4][color=#000000]receive not our witness. If I have told you of earthly things and ye believe not, how shall ye believe if I tell you of Heavenly things? No man hath ascended into Heaven, but he that descended out of Heaven, even the Son-Daughter of man which is in Heaven.[/color][/size]

P.S. Jesus taught the Jewish Concept of Re-encarnation. You said Christianity is rooted in Judaism. Why does the Christian world not teach what Jesus taught concerning the soul?

Edited November 9, 2012 by todd_vetter33

[todd_vetter33]

Blessings!

Edited November 9, 2012 by todd_vetter33

[Winchester]

Christmas came early, this year!

[Mark of the Cross]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' timestamp='1352481205' post='2507222']
God Does not bring men to Christianity.
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Do you believe in historical Jesus?

[Mark of the Cross]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' timestamp='1352481205' post='2507222']



[size=4][b][color=#000000]The Regeneration Of The Soul[/color][/b][/size]

[size=4][color=#000000]JESUS sat in the porch of the [/color][/size][size=3][color=#000000][size=4]Temple[/size][size=4], and some came to learn his doctrine, and one [/size][/color][/size][size=4][color=#000000]said unto him, Master, what teachest thou concerning life? And he said unto them, Blessed are they who suffer many experiences, for they shall be made perfect through suffering: they shall be as the angels of God in Heaven and shall die no more, neither shall they be born any more, for death and birth have no more dominion over them. They who have suffered and overcome shall be made Pillars in the [/color][/size][size=3][color=#000000][size=4]Temple[/size][size=4] of my God, and they shall go out no more. Verily I say unto you, except ye be born again of water and of fire, ye cannot see the [/size][size=4]kingdom[/size][size=4] of [/size][size=4]God[/size][size=4]. And a certain Rabbi (Nicodemus) came unto him by night for fear of the Jews, and said unto him. How can a man be born again when he is old? can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born again? Jesus answered, Verily I say unto you except a man be born again of flesh and of spirit, he cannot enter into the [/size][size=4]kingdom[/size][size=4] of [/size][size=4]God[/size][size=4]. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and ye hear [/size][/color][/size][size=4][color=#000000]the sound thereof, but cannot tell whence it cometh or whither it goeth. The light shineth from the East even unto the West; out of the darkness, the Sun ariseth and goeth down into darkness again; so is it with man, from the ages unto the ages. When it cometh from the darkness, it is that he hath lived before, and when it goeth down again into darkness, it is that he may rest for a little, and thereafter again exist. So through many changes must ye be made perfect, as it is written in the book of Job, I am a wanderer, changing place after place and house after house, until I come unto the City and Mansion which is eternal. And Nicodemus said unto him, How can these things be? And Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a teacher in [/color][/size][size=3][color=#000000][size=4]Israel[/size][size=4], and understandeth not these things? Verily we speak that which we do know, and bear witness to that which we have seen, and ye [/size][/color][/size][size=4][color=#000000]receive not our witness. If I have told you of earthly things and ye believe not, how shall ye believe if I tell you of Heavenly things? No man hath ascended into Heaven, but he that descended out of Heaven, even the Son-Daughter of man which is in Heaven.[/color][/size]

P.S. Jesus taught the Jewish Concept of Re-encarnation. You said Christianity is rooted in Judaism. Why does the Christian world not teach what Jesus taught concerning the soul?
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Actually I would like the source of that actual wording of that document. It is of particular interest to me. Can you quote it? And I'd like to study your reference of the Jewish concept of reincarnation.

[Mark of the Cross]

Okay so here it is! God decided to answer it. Second reading for today. [i]Hebrews 9:27 Since men only die once.[/i]

[Mark of the Cross]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' timestamp='1352481205' post='2507222']


[size=4][b][color=#000000]The Regeneration Of The Soul[/color][/b][/size]

[size=4][color=#000000]JESUS sat in the porch of the [/color][/size][size=3][color=#000000][size=4]Temple[/size][size=4], and some came to learn his doctrine, and one [/size][/color][/size][size=4][color=#000000]said unto him, Master, what teachest thou concerning life? And he said unto them, Blessed are they who suffer many experiences, for they shall be made perfect through suffering: they shall be as the angels of God in Heaven and shall die no more, neither shall they be born any more, for death and birth have no more dominion over them. They who have suffered and overcome shall be made Pillars in the [/color][/size][size=3][color=#000000][size=4]Temple[/size][size=4] of my God, and they shall go out no more. Verily I say unto you, except ye be born again of water and of fire, ye cannot see the [/size][size=4]kingdom[/size][size=4] of [/size][size=4]God[/size][size=4]. And a certain Rabbi (Nicodemus) came unto him by night for fear of the Jews, and said unto him. How can a man be born again when he is old? can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born again? Jesus answered, Verily I say unto you except a man be born again of flesh and of spirit, he cannot enter into the [/size][size=4]kingdom[/size][size=4] of [/size][size=4]God[/size][size=4]. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and ye hear [/size][/color][/size][size=4][color=#000000]the sound thereof, but cannot tell whence it cometh or whither it goeth. The light shineth from the East even unto the West; out of the darkness, the Sun ariseth and goeth down into darkness again; so is it with man, from the ages unto the ages. When it cometh from the darkness, it is that he hath lived before, and when it goeth down again into darkness, it is that he may rest for a little, and thereafter again exist. So through many changes must ye be made perfect, as it is written in the book of Job, I am a wanderer, changing place after place and house after house, until I come unto the City and Mansion which is eternal. And Nicodemus said unto him, How can these things be? And Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a teacher in [/color][/size][size=3][color=#000000][size=4]Israel[/size][size=4], and understandeth not these things? Verily we speak that which we do know, and bear witness to that which we have seen, and ye [/size][/color][/size][size=4][color=#000000]receive not our witness. If I have told you of earthly things and ye believe not, how shall ye believe if I tell you of Heavenly things? No man hath ascended into Heaven, but he that descended out of Heaven, even the Son-Daughter of man which is in Heaven.[/color][/size]


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If i got it right this document is purportedly to be from the original gospel from which the other gospels were taken and corrupted. There are references here inferring reincarnation. The document was [u]supposedly rescued from the corruptors[/u] and is held in a Buddhist temple. Well now! Buddhism teaches reincarnation. Funny about that! In Genesis I would presume that Adam had immortality although maybe not glorified because he was prone to sin. God said to Adam if you eat of the tree you will die! Nothing about being subjected to deaths (plural) which would be just a sentence of suffering. And how would this work. Each life is random degrees of holiness? Seems rather pointless and going no where. Advancing in holiness with each life until enlightenment is achieved? That would be anti Christian in that Jesus saves by the forgiveness of sin and the the thief on the cross is a parable that one can receive forgiveness with full repentance no matter what past. And this is not to mention Hebrews 9:27 which was mysteriously presented under my nose at the right time.