3 Days And 3 Nights Re-visited

[dUSt]

I am never opening this thread ever again.

[todd_vetter33]

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I am never opening this thread ever again.
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That is the beauty of choice, and preferred unless you have any objective truth to add to the conversation for the sake of debate to uncover the truth that is hidden from much of Christianity by Christian doctrine and tradition. Thankfully others have the choice to debate for the sake of discovering truth. This thread is more for the Athiest who is not getting truth from those who claim to have it.

Blessings

The charts which follow illustrate from Jewish Doctrine that the original Passover Lamb was Slain on a day we today would call a Wednesday. Turns out Jesus did fulfill all things written in the laws of Moses concerning him, even to the point of fulfilling the time line of the original Passover Lamb of the Exodus from Egypt.



[img]http://thedeathandresurection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Exodus-16.png[/img]

[img]http://thedeathandresurection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Exodus-12-and-16-Validates-Wednesday-Passover.png[/img]

[img]http://thedeathandresurection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Original-Passover-Lamb-time-line.png[/img]

Edited November 2, 2012 by todd_vetter33

[todd_vetter33]

The Law Jesus claimed to fulfil is able to identify False Testimony that was added to the Roman Cannon by the roman church. The three gospels verses below attempt to destroy the credibility of Jesus as a son of God who fulfilled the Law he claimed to fulfill.

[img]http://thedeathandresurection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Spirit-of-truth-identifies-false-testimony-in-Roman-Doctrine.png[/img]


[font="Times New Roman"]The True testimony for 13 Nissan is as follows from the Gospel that the 4 bible gospels originated from (G-12).[/font]
[font="Times New Roman"]"And Jesus seeing the Passover night was at hand, sent two of his disciples, that they should prepare the upper room where he desired to eat with his twelve, and buy such things as were needful for the feast which he purposed thereafter"[/font]

Edited November 2, 2012 by todd_vetter33

[Slappo]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' timestamp='1351896731' post='2503148']
That is the beauty of choice, and preferred unless you have any objective truth to add to the conversation[/quote]

Objective truth: You're wrong.

[todd_vetter33]

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Objective truth: You're wrong.
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For the sake of Debate and objective truth; PROVE IT! Truth can be proven; Otherwise it is simply a theory/myth/legend. The theories and testimony of the Christian world for Jesus fulfilling time specific prophecy varies wildly, even in the 4 roman cannon goespels. Truth is Fact. Just as it is Fact that the 4 Roman Cannon Gospels lack truth concerning a solid time line of events for the final week of the life of Jesus.

[img]http://thedeathandresurection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Highlighting-bible-discrepancies.png[/img]

Edited November 2, 2012 by todd_vetter33

[todd_vetter33]

The next series of Charts illustrate just how perfect word of God is through out history in pointing to the correct day and year for the Crucifixion. What is illustrated is that Truth will bare witness to truth.
[img]http://thedeathandresurection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/corrected-chart23.png[/img]

Time specific Prophecy has alignments in history with other time specific Prophecies. This is important for knowing the correct day and year for the fulfilment of each time specific prophecy

[img]http://thedeathandresurection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/70-weeks-1.png[/img]

This page represents truly just how perfect word of God actually is. Not only was Messiah cut off in the middle of the 70th week of the daniel 70 weeks prophecy, but it was the middle of the literal week (Wednesday). Double Prophecy fulfilment on top of the fact that over 9 time specific prophecies come into perfect alignment on 5 April 30 AD. Prohecy needs no inclusive reckonning of man to explain it when prophecy aligns with the prophecies concerning time IE: evening and morning make a day (Genesis). The many diversified inclusive reckonnings of the christian world make Jesus look like a liar and has only served to pass on myth and legend concerning Jesus rising from the tomb. This myth and legend rejected by smart people, has caused many to not even concider Jesus as Messiah.

[img]http://thedeathandresurection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/perfect-prophecy-alignments.png[/img]

[Maggyie]

Todd have you ever convinced anyone by using your charts? No?

By the way please show me the verse where it says that using man-made charts to explain Scripture is Biblical. Did Jesus ever use a chart? It's not Biblical, you're committing blasphemy.

[size=1](or something).[/size]

Edited November 3, 2012 by Maggie

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Maggie' timestamp='1351900905' post='2503199']
Todd have you ever convinced anyone by using your charts? No?

By the way please show me the verse where it says that using man-made charts to explain Scripture is Biblical. Did Jesus ever use a chart? It's not Biblical, you're committing blasphemy.

[size=1](or something).[/size]
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Jesus preferred flannel-graphs.

[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='Maggie' timestamp='1351900905' post='2503199']
Todd have you ever convinced anyone by using your charts? No?

By the way please show me the verse where it says that using man-made charts to explain Scripture is Biblical. Did Jesus ever use a chart? It's not Biblical, you're committing blasphemy.

[size=1](or something).[/size]
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Show me a Verse where it says Graphs and charts are not allowed to be used to display truth! Just because Roman doctrine is lacking fact based graphs and charts does not mean it is a tool that is unlawful to use. Is it blastphemy to illustrate truth? Or is it blastphemy to call a lie word of God? From what I can tell, there are many Christians claiming Jesus was Crucified on a Friday preparation day, and calling it truth from God. Is the Friday Crucifixion Theory Blastphemy or truth? From what I can see based on the Testimony of Jesus (Prophecy/TRUTH), The Friday Crucifixion Theorists appear to be telling a lie. It's for this reason I am here to debate. I'll gladly put your speculations up against the Law and prophecies Jesus claimed to fulfill to see if truth can be told by those who claim to be one with the pillar of truth!

[img]http://thedeathandresurection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Friday-to-Sunday-does-not-fulfill-prophecy1.png[/img]

Edited November 3, 2012 by todd_vetter33

[Maggyie]

[quote]Show me a Verse where it says Graphs and charts are not allowed to be used to display truth! [/quote]

No, YOU are the one doing the Un-Biblical act so it is up to you to justify your acts!!! If you can not justify your acts by Scripture why do you do them? Truly you have been taught by men who put their own thoughts higher than the thoughts and holy words of God. Who are you to create charts and graphs, expounding on Holy Scripture when God HIMSELF did not include any graphs or charts in the Bible??? Or even any drawings of maps??? Quote me the Scripture that justified what you are doing. True believers don't need ungodly lists and diagrams as a supplement to Scripture. How do you dare supplement the Word? Your word is not God's holy word which stands on its own!

[todd_vetter33]

When Jesus claimed to fulfill all things in the laws of Moses, Prophets and Psalms concerning him. He claimed that he would be chosen by the people on the tenth day just as the Passover Lamb is chosen by the People on the tenth day. The only event in Bible testimony which represents Jesus being chosen by the people is the Triumphal Entry. Unfortunately The Credibility of Jesus is once again called into question by ancient Roman Catholic Christian doctrine due to it not placing Jesus being chosen by the people on the Day PROPHECY and LAW indicated he would be chosen.

In this next chart are 5 Ancient Roman Catholic Christian references illustrating when Jesus was annointed in Bethany prior to Crucifixion. Can you determine which testimony from the Ancient Catholic record is telling the truth for the annointing in Bethany event? If Yes, also explain why the other Catholic references are not speaking the truth for this one time single event. The True testimony will correctly place the Triumphal entry in line with the Prophecy Jesus claimed he fulfiled. In Lieu of being objective, I will illustrate 33AD as well as 30 AD to see if you can use word of God via the true time line to determine the truth!

[img]http://thedeathandresurection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/When-was-the-triuphal-Entry-into-Jerusalem..png[/img]




[img]http://thedeathandresurection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/When-was-the-triuphal-Entry-into-Jerusalem-1..png[/img]


[img]http://thedeathandresurection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/true-time-line.png[/img]


[url="http://thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/week%20prior%20to%20death%20scripture%20time%20line"]http://thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/week%20prior%20to%20death%20scripture%20time%20line[/url]

The above link illustrates G-12 text from Anointing in Bethany to Road to immaus. You can follow the day transitions via each time line to see if there is any reference from the ancient record that can illustrate Jesus fulfilling the 4 day prophecy of the lamb being chosen by the people on the tenth day and killed 4 days later. This is a gospel that rome had in possession prior to the third century. They attempted to destroy this document when they defined Orthodoxy for you. and your ancestors.

Blessings!

[Maggyie]

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In this next chart are 5 Ancient Roman Catholic Christian references illustrating when Jesus was annointed in Bethany prior to Crucifixion. Can you determine which testimony from the Ancient Catholic record is telling the truth for the annointing in Bethany event?

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Again who instructed you to use charts to interpret God's word?? Who authorized the use of the supplemental materials? Why are you not able to give a BIBLICAL explanation of where your charts and graphs come from?

[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='Maggie' timestamp='1351902384' post='2503226']
No, YOU are the one doing the Un-Biblical act so it is up to you to justify your acts!!! If you can not justify your acts by Scripture why do you do them? Truly you have been taught by men who put their own thoughts higher than the thoughts and holy words of God. Who are you to create charts and graphs, expounding on Holy Scripture when God HIMSELF did not include any graphs or charts in the Bible??? Or even any drawings of maps??? Quote me the Scripture that justified what you are doing. True believers don't need ungodly lists and diagrams as a supplement to Scripture. How do you dare supplement the Word? Your word is not God's holy word which stands on its own!
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It's only a Christian speculation that Roman Doctrine is Word of God. I know word of God to be anything that God actually spoke. or any word spoken by a true prophet. What makes a true prophet true? The words of truth can be validated by multiple prophetic witnesses. more over it will speak according to the Law and Spirit of Prophecy (TRUTH).

The Scripture that justifies what I am doing is clearly illustrated on the very first post i made to this thread. It's the testimony of Men who claim Jesus fulfilled Prophecy, and it's the testimony of men who illustrate he fell short of doing so.

[size=1][size=4]―If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.‖[/size][/size]

[size=1][size=4]I'm simply testing the spirits as scripture instructs[/size][/size]
[size=1][size=5][font=Arial,Arial][font=Arial,Arial]"To the [/font][/font][b]law [/b][font=Arial,Arial][font=Arial,Arial]and to the [/font][/font][b]testimony[/b][font=Arial,Arial][font=Arial,Arial]! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. "[/font][/font][/size][/size]

Edited November 3, 2012 by todd_vetter33

[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='Maggie' timestamp='1351903820' post='2503241']
Again who instructed you to use charts to interpret God's word?? Who authorized the use of the supplemental materials? Why are you not able to give a BIBLICAL explanation of where your charts and graphs come from?
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Those of the truth (Fulfillment of the Law) HEAR God's voice, just as it is written in Roman doctrine. It is God who reveals truth to me, and God who asked me to share truth via these means for now. Not to worry. The 8th King who is of the seven will be coming soon and you will seek ernestly for what I have to share. If you cannot see truth from the lie in this manner, how will you see truth from the lie when word of God is spoken directly to you about you?

Although you may have missed it that those of the truth hear God's voice and that truth is from Heaven. Rome tried to take that out of the 4 bible gospels. See link below which contains Roman doctrine past and present. You may be shocked By what you see.

[url="http://thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/Pilates%20questions"]http://thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/Pilates%20questions[/url]

Blessings!

Edited November 3, 2012 by todd_vetter33

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' timestamp='1351904153' post='2503245']
Those of the truth (Fulfillment of the Law) HEAR God's voice, just as it is written in Roman doctrine. It is God who reveals truth to me, and God who asked me to share truth via these means for now. Not to worry. The 8th King who is of the seven will be coming soon and you will seek ernestly for what I have to share. If you cannot see truth from the lie in this manner, how will you see truth from the lie when word of God is spoken directly to you about you?

Blessings!
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You lost me.