dUSt Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 [media]http://youtu.be/bErhq8gYpp0[/media] [color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][i]“I will not forget that a strong country needs more than a strong economy. It needs strong families and strong values as well... President Obama once said that decisions about abortion are ‘above his pay grade.’ I’ll never be so cavalier about life. I will be a pro-life president... I will reinstate the Mexico City Policy. I’ll cut off funding for the United Nations Population Fund, which supports China’s abhorrent one child policy. I’ll ensure that abortion advocates like Planned Parenthood get no taxpayer dollars. And I’ll reverse Obama regulations that attack our religious freedom and threaten innocent life. I’ll nominate judges who respect the Constitution, are proponents of judicial restraint, and know the difference between personal opinion and law."[/i][/font][/color] Even though Romney is not perfectly in line with the Catholic stance on abortion, he does [b]not[/b] equal Obama. Don't get it twisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Romney is for abortion in cases of rape incest and †health†of the mother. at best this is a protestant definition. Do not state things that are contrary to Church teachings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 .[quote name='jaime' timestamp='1351773222' post='2501971'] Romney is for abortion in cases of rape incest and †health†of the mother. at best this is a protestant definition. Do not state things that are contrary to Church teachings [/quote] jaime, don't you think that has been said 90,000 or 100,000 times already? Obama is supportive of the Democratic Party's efforts to expand and protect free and easy access to Abortion: [b]Protecting A Woman's Right to Choose[/b]. [b]The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade [/b]and a woman's right to make decisions regarding her pregnancy, including a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay. [b]We oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right[/b]. Abortion is an intensely personal decision between a woman, her family, her doctor, and her clergy; [b]there is no place for politicians or government to get in the way[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Romney is not pro life. Staying that he is contradicts Church teachings. End of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 90,001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Dust, what's the point in doing this? We've been debating about this for what feels like a really long time already. I like other posters may be as well, are tired of this. People have already made their points countless times, so why have us go on this merry-go-round again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I do it because I think it's important to in-womb persons who don't have a voice. I'm not dead yet, don't believe in an afterlife, so think I may as well do something useful for the next 25 years I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 What you meant to say is: "Romney is less pro-abortion than Obama." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 [quote name='jaime' timestamp='1351773222' post='2501971'] Romney is for abortion in cases of rape incest and †health†of the mother. [/quote] This is a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1351780191' post='2502012'] This is a lie. [/quote] Are you intending to ascribe intent, or is this just poor word choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1351780191' post='2502012'] This is a lie. [/quote] Calling Romney pro life is the lie. I've not stated inaccurate facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 It's actually kind of hard to tell: [url="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/another-romney-abortion-flip-flop-no-exceptions-health-mother"]http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/another-romney-abortion-flip-flop-no-exceptions-health-mother[/url] [url="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/27/mitt-romney-abortion_n_1834888.html"]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/27/mitt-romney-abortion_n_1834888.html[/url] [url="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/23/gop-grassroots-furious-at-romney-over-akin-abortion-rape-exception.html"]http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/23/gop-grassroots-furious-at-romney-over-akin-abortion-rape-exception.html[/url] [url="http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/08/22/romney-supports-total-abortion-ban-no-exceptions-but-fools-media-into-reporting-o"]http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/08/22/romney-supports-total-abortion-ban-no-exceptions-but-fools-media-into-reporting-o[/url] [url="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/the_rumble/2012/08/romneys-muddled-abortion-views-what-does-he-stand-for-exactly"]http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/the_rumble/2012/08/romneys-muddled-abortion-views-what-does-he-stand-for-exactly[/url] [url="http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/09/03/160502626/romney-and-abortion-another-shift-in-the-works"]http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/09/03/160502626/romney-and-abortion-another-shift-in-the-works[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) Instead of bullsh that's just bickering with colorful pictures, give an intelligible response. [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]dUSt,[/font][/color] [color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]Romney's policy's and speeches have not be unequivocally against abortion in all instances. His RomneyCare in Mass and other policies have allowed Government funding for abortion and mandated insurance coverage.[/font][/color] [color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]Argue whether or not Romney asked for and promoted those things, or if he didn't fight hard enough against others (Democrats??) who wanted those provisions included as part of political compromise.[/font][/color] [color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]I would agree with jaime and the other posters that Romney does not meet all standards and requirements to be considered fully compliant with the Catholic standard of being fully pro-life. It's a consideration that has to be made by rational people.[/font][/color] [color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]The point is, are Romney's and Republican's acts and policies more or less pro-active than Obama and the Democrats?[/font][/color] [color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]As far as a significant minority of people voting for third party helping elect Obama, it depends on which State they are in to qualify if it may help Obama's re-election or not.[/font][/color][/size] Edited November 1, 2012 by Anomaly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][i]"Mitt Romney is pro-life. He believes it speaks well of the country that almost all Americans recognize that abortion is a problem. And in the quiet of conscience, people of both political parties know that more than a million abortions a year cannot be squared with the good heart of America.[/i][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][i]Mitt believes that life begins at conception and wishes that the laws of our nation reflected that view. But while the nation remains so divided, he believes that the right next step is for the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade – a case of blatant judicial activism that took a decision that should be left to the people and placed it in the hands of unelected judges. With Roe overturned, states will be empowered through the democratic process to determine their own abortion laws and not have them dictated by judicial mandate.[/i][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][i]Mitt supports the Hyde Amendment, which broadly bars the use of federal funds for abortions. As president, he will end federal funding for abortion advocates like Planned Parenthood. He will protect the right of health care workers to follow their conscience in their work. And he will nominate judges who know the difference between personal opinion and the law.[/i][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][i]Because the good heart of America knows no boundaries, a commitment to protecting life should not stop at the water’s edge. Taking innocent life is always wrong and always tragic, wherever it happens. The compassionate instincts of this country should not be silent in the face of injustices like China’s One-Child policy. No one will ever hear a President Romney or his vice president tell the Chinese government that "I fully understand" and won’t “second guess†compulsory sterilization and forced abortion.[/i][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][i]Americans have a moral duty to uphold the sanctity of life and protect the weakest, most vulnerable and most innocent among us. As president, Mitt will ensure that American laws reflect America’s values of preserving life at home and abroad."[/i][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]That is straight from his website.[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Words, words, words... Romneycare is action. And Romneycare pays for abortion. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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