dUSt Posted November 3, 2012 Author Share Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name='tinytherese' timestamp='1351900662' post='2503192'] Your average Phatmasser is not your typical Catholic who is improperly catechized. The majority already know why not to vote for Obama since they are already past needing to be catechized on that issue as well as others, so they see no need to talk about why not to vote for Obama. [/quote] Phatmassers who post are not the major audience. Right now there are 20 phatmassers reading the phorum and 60 guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksT_ulO1LYQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksT_ulO1LYQ[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern california guy Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 What if you are a disillusioned Obama supporter. But you don't like Romney... However you do like Ron Paul! So you vote for Ron Paul instead of Obama. Now is that a "vote for Obama"??????????? Or is that a "vote for Romney"????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Now there are 2 members, 0 guests and 1 anon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Freedom. Is your avatar for real? You're kidding right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 I. LOVE. Birthday cake martinis. YES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351877364' post='2503003'] I'd appreciate it not to be compared to Winchester. Thank you. [/quote] Well, you are probably taller, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Selah' timestamp='1351904401' post='2503252'] Now there are 2 members, 0 guests and 1 anon [/quote] Anonymous is Legion. Edited November 3, 2012 by BG45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherie Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Feel free to completely ignore me - I feel like the lady running after the bus. I haven't been very active on Phatmass in a LONG time, as I have been very busy with my 2 year old and 5 month old (hence why, when I have been active, it's mostly been in RSH). Therefore ... I haven't been a part of ANY of the election discussions on Phatmass (I really regret that, as I've been so active about the issue IRL that I would have loved to have been a part of those discussions here), I'm certainly not "in the loop" (nor have I really ever been, to be honest) but this is an issue I feel passionately about, so I wanted to add my two cents. Most of you probably have no idea who I am, and maybe this isn't the thread for me to start rambling in, but oh well. I agree with dUSt. Obama is the most anti-Biblical, anti-life president in our nation's history. The facts on this matter are irrefutable and, frankly, shocking, when you see them all piled up, one after the other. This is a crisis situation, and I truly believe that. Those who know me IRL know I'm passionate about politics, but I'm not a kook about it (for example, I'm not one of those who go around stating things like, "Obama is a horrible Muslim who wants America to [i]DIE[/i]!!!") But I do believe, especially in regard to religious freedom (HHS Mandate) and abortion (as Senator, he voted against protecting babies born alive in a failed abortion) ... that it truly is a crisis our country is facing. And we can turn it around. Therefore, I believe that it would be [i]imprudent[/i] and, frankly, [i]foolish[/i] for a Catholic, especially in a swing state, to vote for a third party candidate in this election. It's not immoral to vote for a third party candidate, not at all. It's true, you must follow what your well-formed conscience tells you to do. I'm not making a moral judgement on anyone's character or calling anyone a bad Catholic for voting for a third party candidate. However, with our current president's record, I would hope that a Catholic considering a third party vote would look at the [i]bigger picture,[/i] the [i]greater good,[/i] the (however unfortunate) [i]political reality of a 2-party system [/i]in our country, the facts of our current state under president Obama and what resources we have at our hands to turn things around ... and realize that a vote away from Romney, ESPECIALLY in a swing state,[i] [/i]is, essentially, a vote FOR Obama. And what's a vote for Obama? A vote for the slaughter of millions of precious unborn children. I love what Gianna Jessen, abortion survivor, said on the subject: [quote]“If you are not voting because Romney was not your first choice, or you’re not voting because of his stand on exceptions for abortion: have you forgotten that he has pledged to protect 99% of the unborn? I wish he could see the wisdom in protecting all, and maybe he soon will. But to sit home, insisting on our own way, throwing away a vote that has been dearly paid for, or writing in something akin to ‘Mary Poppins’ might make your point, but you will also help to ensure the slaughter of millions of children, and other innocents.†[/quote] ("akin to 'Mary Poppins'" quite obviously refers to voting for a third party candidate who can't even garner 1% of the vote.) Also, I'm not making a judgement of character on anyone, but I cannot for the life of me fathom a devout Catholic specifically voting [i]for[/i] Obama -- what he has proposed with his HHS Mandate is the biggest attack on the Catholic Church in this nation's history. I'm sure Catholics who have voted or are voting for him are good people. I'm sure they're nice and I'm sure their personalities are just a big piece of amesome. But I am seriously disappointed (to say the least) in their reasoning behind why they think it's ok to vote FOR Obama. I think it's a very bad decision. I'm sure all of those things have been said before. I just thought I'd include them as my personal opinion, for the record. [size=2]Now I suppose I shall retreat back into the troll mist of the internet?[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name='Maggie' timestamp='1351904526' post='2503255'] Freedom. Is your avatar for real? You're kidding right. [/quote] Yeah, that is rather crass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1351911554' post='2503301'] Yeah, that is rather crass. [/quote] Horizontal stripes are not flattering on anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 according to U.S. Flag Code, the flag is not to be worn as clothing. Not even Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Chuck Norris can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name='Anomaly' timestamp='1351915862' post='2503344'] Chuck Norris can. [/quote] But he wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Respect. Chuck got it. The hippie commie dude in the dress doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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