Freedom Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1351710297' post='2501310'] [img]https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/254369_539444096081962_1250113143_n.jpg[/img] [/quote] You knowingly are attacking the wrong person. We all have experienced the horror of the past four years and we perfectly know which president to replace. Sorry, but anybody would be an improvement especially Romney, he did a great job in Massachusetts and will do great for this country. We need a successful business man, not an ex lawyer that only worked as a community organizer for the government, depending on our taxes for his salary. Get with it, the truth will set you free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 This is how I am beginning to feel about all the election blah-de-blah... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjrthOPLAKM&feature=youtube_gdata_player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 [quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1351710548' post='2501316'] it's good to know that you recognize you have a problem. [/quote] It's good to know that I am realistic. If you want to live in fantasy island, it's your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351710963' post='2501329'] You knowingly are attacking the wrong person. We all have experienced the horror of the past four years and we perfectly know which president to replace. Sorry, but anybody would be an improvement especially Romney, he did a great job in Massachusetts and will do great for this country. We need a successful business man, not an ex lawyer that only worked as a community organizer for the government, depending on our taxes for his salary. Get with it, the truth will set you free. [/quote] Did you intentionally adopt the same tactic that the meme mocked? Because well done, if you did. Edited October 31, 2012 by Winchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 [quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351711151' post='2501333'] It's good to know that I am realistic. If you want to live in fantasy island, it's your choice. [/quote] i'm glad you're realistic that you can't change your behavior and don't want to.[quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1351711068' post='2501331'] This is how I am beginning to feel about all the election blah-de-blah... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjrthOPLAKM&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/media] [/quote] well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 [quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351710963' post='2501329'] We all have experienced the horror of the past four years [/quote] Horrors? man you have a thin skin for politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Just for the record, I'm jumping on the "there's some fishy joke being pulled or something" bandwagon. Freedom's first 20 or 30 posts were kind and reasonable. Then its account went off the deep end, and dust is acting very strange in regards to it. There's a rat in the salmon hut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1351742241' post='2501783'] Just for the record, I'm jumping on the "there's some fishy joke being pulled or something" bandwagon. Freedom's first 20 or 30 posts were kind and reasonable. Then its account went off the deep end, and dust is acting very strange in regards to it. There's a rat in the salmon hut. [/quote] If I paid attention to n00bs, I might be able to agree with you for good reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvanna Imbris Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Every time I hear that a 3rd party vote is lost because those candidates aren't "viable," I think of [i]I, Robot[/i]. Detective Spooner and a child (Sarah) are about to drown. A robot assesses the situation and, being able to choose only one of them, chooses to save Spooner, since he is much more likely to survive. Spooner lived, the girl drowned, and Spooner is horrified by the robot's choice: “I was the logical choice. It calculated that I had a 45% chance of survival. Sarah only had an 11% chance. That was somebody’s baby. 11% is more than enough. A human being would’ve known that.†What does likelihood of success have to do with the moral question at all? You do what is right and you take that risk and leave the rest in God's hands. This was the attitude of the saints. None of them ever said "There is no way we can spread the Gospel. No one will ever believe us. Instead, we should preach just the parts that are most likely to be accepted. Some Gospel is better than no Gospel!" No! And they would definitely never say that someone who doesn't share that approach wants people to be ignorant of the Gospel. Sure, telling the whole truth might push people away from the faith, but that doesn't mean that those who tell the whole truth are TRYING to make people lose their faith! I have no doubt that there are well-meaning people on both sides of the "3rd party/thrown away vote" question. People on both sides feel that their consciences are well-formed, and nothing but GOOD SOLID REASONS are going to sway them. So if you think someone else is wrong, you need to have solid reasons, not name calling. Saying that 3rd party voters are liberal or that they really want Obama to win is not going to convince them. In fact, it will just convince them that you don't care about what they think or what their consciences tell them. Insults aren't helping anyone form their conscience better, they just hurt people and tempt them to be uncharitable. I am going to pick a better candidate and I am going to trust God. And I don't think this is naïve at all. I'm not going to vote for the lesser evil just because I think other people will do the same. It isn't valid to say that 3rd party candidates never have a chance. Remember Jesse Ventura becoming governor of Minnesota? 3rd party candidate, no chance of winning. He succeeded because enough people decided to vote 3rd party [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_gubernatorial_election,_1998"]http://en.wikipedia...._election,_1998[/url] (I preferred Norm Coleman, but it still proves the point). With the help of God and his Church, form your conscience, follow it, and leave the outcome in God's hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 [quote name='Sylvanna Imbris' timestamp='1351750606' post='2501891'] Every time I hear that a 3rd party vote is lost because those candidates aren't "viable," I think of [i]I, Robot[/i]. Detective Spooner and a child (Sarah) are about to drown. A robot assesses the situation and, being able to choose only one of them, chooses to save Spooner, since he is much more likely to survive. Spooner lived, the girl drowned, and Spooner is horrified by the robot's choice: “I was the logical choice. It calculated that I had a 45% chance of survival. Sarah only had an 11% chance. That was somebody’s baby. 11% is more than enough. A human being would’ve known that.†What does likelihood of success have to do with the moral question at all? You do what is right and you take that risk and leave the rest in God's hands. This was the attitude of the saints. None of them ever said "There is no way we can spread the Gospel. No one will ever believe us. Instead, we should preach just the parts that are most likely to be accepted. Some Gospel is better than no Gospel!" No! And they would definitely never say that someone who doesn't share that approach wants people to be ignorant of the Gospel. Sure, telling the whole truth might push people away from the faith, but that doesn't mean that those who tell the whole truth are TRYING to make people lose their faith! I have no doubt that there are well-meaning people on both sides of the "3rd party/thrown away vote" question. People on both sides feel that their consciences are well-formed, and nothing but GOOD SOLID REASONS are going to sway them. So if you think someone else is wrong, you need to have solid reasons, not name calling. Saying that 3rd party voters are liberal or that they really want Obama to win is not going to convince them. In fact, it will just convince them that you don't care about what they think or what their consciences tell them. Insults aren't helping anyone form their conscience better, they just hurt people and tempt them to be uncharitable. I am going to pick a better candidate and I am going to trust God. And I don't think this is naïve at all. I'm not going to vote for the lesser evil just because I think other people will do the same. It isn't valid to say that 3rd party candidates never have a chance. Remember Jesse Ventura becoming governor of Minnesota? 3rd party candidate, no chance of winning. He succeeded because enough people decided to vote 3rd party [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_gubernatorial_election,_1998"]http://en.wikipedia...._election,_1998[/url] (I preferred Norm Coleman, but it still proves the point). With the help of God and his Church, form your conscience, follow it, and leave the outcome in God's hands. [/quote] Excellent point about Jesse Ventura. And if I remember correctly, going into election day, that was a totally unexpected outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvanna Imbris Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Yes! No one expected it, especially Skip Humphrey. It's a miracle, 3rd party votes didn't get applied to the Democrat candidate's score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Jesse Ventura was a wrestler. Wrestlers have personality. Personality goes a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I appreciate how willing Jesse Ventura is to entertain conspiracy theories. It is refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 [color=#222222][font='Helvetica Neue', Arial, Verdana, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(255, 255, 255)] [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1351646931' post='2500777'] You're going to love me, one day. [/quote] I sure could, but it will have to be after I love Satan first. [/background][/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Jesus Through Mary Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 [quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351804478' post='2502187'] [color=#222222][font=Helvetica Neue', Arial, Verdana, sans-serif][size=4][background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]I sure could, but it will have to be after I love Satan first.[/background][/size][/font][/color] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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