Nihil Obstat Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1351031216' post='2496533'] That is totally irrelevant. The point of all politics anywhere, in any system is power. [/quote] So it is irrelevant to you whether you, on your own free will, give a person or organization 30% of your income, versus if someone puts a gun to your head and takes it? Good to know. I will rob you first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1351031824' post='2496543'] So it is irrelevant to you whether you, on your own free will, give a person or organization 30% of your income, versus if someone puts a gun to your head and takes it? Good to know. I will rob you first. [/quote] No, it is irrelevant to the personalities of the people in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 A leader's first duty is to learn how to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1351033066' post='2496571'] A leader's first duty is to learn how to follow. [/quote] That is certainly how the military does, and should view it. After all, nobody wants a power hungry General taking over the United States. That is not, however, the best way to play politics. Edited October 23, 2012 by r2Dtoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1351032497' post='2496561'] No, it is irrelevant to the personalities of the people in charge. [/quote] Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1351039343' post='2496630'] Why? [/quote] Why wouldn't it work that way? It's human nature that the person who [i]wants[/i] power the most gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 [quote name='r2Dtoo' timestamp='1351039559' post='2496632'] Why wouldn't it work that way? It's human nature that the person who [i]wants[/i] power the most gets it. [/quote] A politician under a voluntary system would have significantly less power than a politician has today. They would actually be at the mercy of their constituents, instead of just paying lip service to the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1351041857' post='2496645'] A politician under a voluntary system would have significantly less power than a politician has today. They would actually be at the mercy of their constituents, instead of just paying lip service to the idea. [/quote] LOL! Because a constituency under anarchy would be so much more educated and better prepared to tell when a politician is lying than they are now? The very idea of this is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Every thinking person knows that politicians lie as often as they breathe. They just hope the other guy gets screwed over more than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1351043001' post='2496664'] Every thinking person knows that politicians lie as often as they breathe. They just hope the other guy gets screwed over more than them. [/quote]Did a politician piss in your breakfast cereal or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 well, actually a benevolent dictatorship is the best form of government. so i guess then a leader first must learn to love, then to grab power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 [quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1351044357' post='2496677'] well, actually a benevolent dictatorship is the best form of government. so i guess then a leader first must learn to love, then to grab power. [/quote]Define benevolent dictator vans what is the possibility if that happening. And when they die, who will be the successor? The problem with Monarchies and dictators is bad ones are only removed by assassination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Dunno. Jesus sounds pretty amesome to me. Has all the power, calls all the shots. Loves us in all our mess anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 [quote name='Anomaly' timestamp='1351043619' post='2496671'] Did a politician piss in your breakfast cereal or something? [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 whaddya call 100 politicians at the bottom of the ocean a slow start ba dum ching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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