DiscerningCatholic Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) (Typed Floopy, it didn't get filtered.) [img]https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/67138_441047952596958_301826993_n.jpg[/img] I can't even. Edited October 21, 2012 by DiscerningCatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 the little flower is NOT amused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spem in alium Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 [b]....??????!!!!!!!![/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscerningCatholic Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) I found this posted by someone else on their Facebook page... [img]https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/534572_430856296963706_979609980_n.jpg[/img] Edited October 21, 2012 by DiscerningCatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscerningCatholic Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 Needless to say, however, I'll be wearing my habit with pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 1. Habited orders are not inherently holier than non-habited orders. Orders where habits for many reasons, including that their original habit was supposed to just look like what a widow would wear in society. 2. The LCWR has issues with its leadership, not most of its members. Just so the lurkers don't get confused. But that's awfully strange that a women's ordination group would choose St. Therese as a patron...sounds like they just found this picture and said "OH THIS WOULD BE KOOL." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscerningCatholic Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 ^^ Thanks for adding that! And I agree with what probably happened with the picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatitude Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='Basilisa Marie' timestamp='1350828917' post='2495645'] But that's awfully strange that a women's ordination group would choose St. Therese as a patron...sounds like they just found this picture and said "OH THIS WOULD BE KOOL." [/quote] No, it's because St Therese described a longing to be a priest: "I feel in me the vocation of a [i]priest[/i]! With what love, O Jesus, would I bear you in my hands, when at the sound of my words you came down from heaven! With what love would I give you to souls! But alas, just as much as I desire to be a priest, I admire and envy the humility of St. Francis of Assisi, and feel the call to imitate him in refusing the sublime dignity of the Priesthood." She also had a longing to be many other things (such as a missionary) and she was bewildered, because she knew that it would never be possible for anyone to be all of those things, some of which were contradictory. Then the realisation came: "My vocation is love! In the heart of my mother, the Church, I shall be love, and in this way I shall be all things." I went to a talk on St Therese by an advocate of women's ordination (not realising that she was one) and got really fidgety and upset when she ended her talk by reading aloud Therese's description of her dream of consecrating the host...but left out the sentence about St Francis. I felt that was manipulative, and that she hadn't understood Therese properly. Then something interesting happened. An audience member asked the speaker why she hadn't mentioned Therese's relationship with Our Lady in her talk, and the speaker replied that Therese was too focused on Jesus to care about anything else. At this I interrupted and told the speaker about Therese's many poems on Mary, including 'Why I Love You, O Mary'. The speaker said she'd never heard of it. She was visibly put out, and afterwards she said to me, "You're quite a Therese expert, aren't you?" only it wasn't in a nice way. This led me to think that advocates for women's ordination are perhaps not always aware of the contribution that women have made to the Church. It seemed odd to me that someone would advocate female ordination, but downplay the centrality of the Queen of Heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) Well hey there, I stand corrected! Edit: From my experience talking with students of feminist theology, it sounds to me like most of them just don't understand Mary. They see her as someone who is always honored for being humble, quiet, patient, etc, and that kind of imagery used to keep women in "their place" by people in power. And while I know that we should aspire to be humble and patient, I think there's also something to that assessment. What people don't understand is that what makes Mary's humility so amazing is that she was so humble in being the kecharitomene - full of grace. It was her decision to bring Christ into the world (in the face of certain social isolation and possible death), and her prompting that began his public ministry. Instead of an image of a woman who only speaks when spoken to, she's the one who saw a problem at the Wedding of Cana and spoke up about it, even when her Son wasn't going to do anything about it on his own. And she wasn't some weak-willed, fragile lady - she loved her son so much that she put her own pain aside so she could be with him as he endured his crucifixion. She was with the apostles in the upper room during the descent of the Holy Spirit. I think people have focused so much on Mary's humility and whatnot that many times we forget to point out that she's amesome. Mary is a wonderfully feminist figure, whom all women (and men!) should aspire to imitate, if we only take the time to actually examine her life. My feminist theology student friends seemed much more keen on looking into Marian devotion after I pointed that part out. So I don't think it's really that they "hate" Mary because they "hate" humility and virtue and femininity and anything like that. It's that certain part of who she is have been highlighted so much to the exclusion of others, so that people just don't understand. Edited October 21, 2012 by Basilisa Marie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscerningCatholic Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 She may have wanted to be a priest, but that doesn't mean that she would be advocating the ordination of women, which goes up not only against the Catechism but against the Bible, as well. I too would love to be a priest, but I will not contradict the teachings of holy Mother Church in order for me to cater to my desires. And I think Therese said it best when she said, "My vocation is LOVE. I want to be love within the Church." The highest calling is NOT the priesthood, as some of these women seem to think, but is SAINTHOOD. And Beatitude, that's weird. They can't lobby for the ordination of sinful, human women but then go on to dismiss the sinless Mother of God... they sound more Protestant than anything else, to be quite frank, but for some reason want to remain Catholic even though the other sects of Christianity allow women pastors at the snap of your fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I want to land on Saturn. But no matter how much I want to it will still be impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscerningCatholic Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1350837394' post='2495667'] I want to land on Saturn. But no matter how much I want to it will still be impossible. [/quote] Great comparison!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristinaTherese Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1350837394' post='2495667'] I want to land on Saturn. But no matter how much I want to it will still be impossible. [/quote] (That's what I'm using for props.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 :facepalm: to the original post.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i<3franciscans Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1350837394' post='2495667'] I want to land on Saturn. But no matter how much I want to it will still be impossible. [/quote] I just read through this whole thread and this was most definitely the perfect end to the discussion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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