4588686 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A8JsRx2lois"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A8JsRx2lois[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I kind of zoned out during the before-the-twist part. Maybe some people actually do make arguments like that, but they do not mean much to me. Or maybe it is because I was up until 4am this morning writing a paper on whether it is worse for a person the earlier they die. I even used MLP themed examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 (edited) What are gay people being barred from again? Besides all those straights-only restaurants and water fountains. This should provoke the same old diatribe about how gays are not allowed to get married and ZOMG it's totally just like an interracial marriage ban from the dark days! Ignoring the fact that, distinctions between race are fairly new (about 500 years give or take a century) and that yet, sex/gender differences have been noted throughout pretty much all of recorded history (ehrm thousands of years), and gee whiz I'll bet about almost 100% of cultures throughout history have heterosexual marriage customs even though homosexual practices were often lauded (they wuz so repressed/homophobic!). interracial marriage was essentially the "new" idea being adopted, but it's much more fun if we pretend that concept was around for millennia and/or the product of the religious dark age. It follows a much more useful narrative. But CLEARLY the two must be related, and the only POSSIBLE logic against gay marriage must follow the same racist paradigm of the American 50's, and in 50 years we will feel the shame those terrible racists feel now. And then I assume it would be fun to make swift generalizations of what my sexuality must be, and how I'm denying to others what I shall take for myself. Given that I think all of this is croutons, I must be pontificating from my throne of glorious heteronormativity, right? I have no idea what it's like to be socially isolated, depressed, and in constant doubt of my identity. I was always a thoroughly well-adjusted heterosexual white female. How the hell else could I have come to this conclusion? gnar gnar gnar Edited October 20, 2012 by Ice_nine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted October 20, 2012 Author Share Posted October 20, 2012 [quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1350713335' post='2495260'] But CLEARLY the two must be related, and the only POSSIBLE logic against gay marriage must follow the same racist paradigm of the American 50's, and in 50 years we will feel the shame those terrible racists feel now.[/QUOTE] Probably. The opinion polls are pretty clear. [QUOTE]And then I assume it would be fun to make swift generalizations of what my sexuality must be, and how I'm denying to others what I shall take for myself. Given that I think all of this is croutons, I must be pontificating from my throne of glorious heteronormativity, right? I have no idea what it's like to be socially isolated, depressed, and in constant doubt of my identity. I was always a thoroughly well-adjusted heterosexual white female. How the hell else could I have come to this conclusion? gnar gnar gnar [/quote] I remember reading your post about your own struggles with your sexual identity. Maybe confusion is a better word. So no, I don't assume that. The fact that you have been depressed and isolated just makes it more shameful that you're willing to contribute to isolating and disenfranchising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1350713764' post='2495263'] Probably. The opinion polls are pretty clear. [/quote] So for the thousands of years before the dawn of racism, when there was no gay marriage codified into any law, despite men having sex with each other in many, maybe most cultures . . . what does that say? Because to me it looks like, gee, there might be other reasons besides "fear of the other" and racism that might be involved. [quote] I remember reading your post about your own struggles with your sexual identity. Maybe confusion is a better word. So no, I don't assume that. The fact that you have been depressed and isolated just makes it more shameful that you're willing to contribute to isolating and disenfranchising. [/quote] *sigh* whatever Hassan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I will say this though: rhetorically speaking, he was excellent. His little M. Night Shyamalan twist was executed flawlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 It's not actually "ignorant" to reject "equal rights". One might call it reprehensible, or evil. But it is not "ignorant", nor does it need to come from ignorance. Guevera, a famous murderer of homosexuals, was not ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1350708248' post='2495249'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A8JsRx2lois[/media] [/quote] Shiny forehead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 [quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1350713335' post='2495260']I'll bet about almost 100% of cultures throughout history have heterosexual marriage customs even though homosexual practices were often lauded (they wuz so repressed/homophobic!).[/quote] The United States used to execute homosexuals, but I agree since ancient Rome loved them there's no reason for gays to be concerned about a return to our country's homophobic past... Were gays to shut up, as you would like them to do, moral conservatives supported by their religious institutions would call for a return to anti-sodomy laws and execution of homosexuals. You will never be able to defeat them, as they have no choice but to fight until they have equal protection under the law. It doesn't matter how long they have to play the game, the fact that they [i]can[/i] play the game ensures their eventual success. Give it up already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 guillotines are fashionable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1350761541' post='2495382'] guillotines are fashionable... [/quote] Never gonna happen. Edited October 20, 2012 by r2Dtoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 could use em for circumcision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 [quote name='ardillacid' timestamp='1350755805' post='2495349'] Shiny forehead [/quote] is shiny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 [quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1350761935' post='2495393'] could use em for circumcision [/quote] I'm unsure what fetish you are referring to as I have not read [i]50 Shades of Grey[/i]. Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 i wouldn't read that pron either. good fer you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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