France To Ban "mother" And "father" In Official Docume

[BG45]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9563543/France-set-to-ban-the-words-mother-and-father-from-official-documents.html



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The move, which has outraged Catholics, means only the word "parents" would be used in identical marriage ceremonies for all heterosexual and same-sex couples.


The draft law states that "marriage is a union of two people, of different or the same gender".


It says all references to "mothers and fathers" in the civil code – which enshrines French law – will be swapped for simply "parents".


The law would also give equal adoption rights to homosexual and heterosexual couples.


Justice Minister Christiane Taubira told France's Catholic newspaper La Croix: "Who is to say that a heterosexual couple will bring a child up better than a homosexual couple, that they will guarantee the best conditions for the child's development?"


"What is certain is that the interest of the child is a major preoccupation for the government."

The head of the French Catholic Church Cardinal Philippe Barbarin warned followers last week that gay marriage could lead to legalised incest and polygamy in society.

He told the Christian's RFC radio station: "Gay marriage would herald a complete breakdown in society.

"This could have innumerable consequences. Afterward they will want to create couples with three or four members. And after that, perhaps one day the taboo of incest will fall."

Leading French Catholics have also published a 'Prayer for France', which says: "Children should not be subjected to adults' desires and conflicts, so they can fully benefit from the love of their mother and father."

And Pope Benedict XVI invited 30 French bishops to Italy to urge them to fight against the new law.

He told them: "We have there a true challenge to take on.

"The family that is the foundation of social life is threatened in many places, following a concept of human nature that has proven defective."

President Francois Hollande pledged in his manifesto to legalise gay marriage. The draft law will be presented to his cabinet for approval on October 31.

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Also from France, [url="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/10/french-president-proposes-banning-homework/"]a push to ban homework.[/url]

[mysisterisalittlesister]

so does that mean kids can't call their parents "mom" or "dad"? That's messed up. France needs a lot of prayers.

[CatherineM]

A geneologist's nightmare. Well so is all the suragacy and spermatozoa donor stuff too.

[EmilyAnn]

I wonder what my French birth certificate would say then under these rules. Instead of 'Mother' and 'Father' would I have 'Parent 1' and 'Parent 2'?

[Kia ora]

[quote name='mysisterisalittlesister' timestamp='1350563621' post='2494402']
so does that mean kids can't call their parents "mom" or "dad"? That's messed up. France needs a lot of prayers.
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No. It means that in the French Civil Code, the words mother and father will be replaced by parents and instead of husband and wife, it will be replaced by spouse, provided that this law passes. This makes sense of course. If you keep the same words, things get very complicated very quickly.

[Groo the Wanderer]

so the french pansies surrender again....this time to Satan

[Luigi]

Mon Dieu et Sacre Bleu!

[DiscerningCatholic]

St. Therese and St. Joan of Arc, pray for France!

[Basilisa Marie]

[quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1350572498' post='2494414']
A geneologist's nightmare. Well so is all the suragacy and spermatozoa donor stuff too.
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Yup.

Also I thought they already did this? Maybe that was a different country.

[God the Father]

fully back banning homework

[r2Dtoo]

[quote name='God the Father' timestamp='1350777924' post='2495503']
fully back banning homework
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When I was in grade school I would have loved that, but in college? Um, I really don't feel like having my college papers due by the end of class. Not how I write.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Kia ora' timestamp='1350604197' post='2494568']
No. It means that in the French Civil Code, the words mother and father will be replaced by parents and instead of husband and wife, it will be replaced by spouse, provided that this law passes. This makes sense of course. If you keep the same words, things get very complicated very quickly.
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In Spain, whose Socialist government passed similar legislation a few years ago, it's "Progenator A" and Progenator B."

[r2Dtoo]

What does "Progenator A" translate to in Spanish?

[Kia ora]

I think Socrates meant progenitor which means parent in Spanish. They also use cónyuge 'spouse' instead of husband/wife.

Edited October 21, 2012 by Kia ora