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[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1350045910' post='2492733']
"My central planning is better!"

"No! My central planning is better!"


Repeat ad infinitum.
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You need to see a sociologist.

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[quote name='Anomaly' timestamp='1350046192' post='2492737']
You need to see a sociologist.
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I prefer historians.

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[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1350045862' post='2492730']
Biden was a jerk and continues to be an embarrassment to real Catholics.
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Whereas I'm sure you make all Catholics--and Christians-- proud every moment of every day.

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[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1350022018' post='2492666']


So, Romney and Ryan get a pass for their moderately pro-life/pro-choice stance because they pay lip-service to wanting to minimize the amount of abortions that happen, while stopping short of outright banning the practice? Isn't this sort of the same lip-service that Obama and other Dems give? In fact, aren't the same words and sentiments about "limiting the need for abortions" paid by every.single.politician.ever?
[/quote]pretty much how I feel

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Groo the Wanderer

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1350053290' post='2492759']
Whereas I'm sure you make all Catholics--and Christians-- proud every moment of every day.
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psst! kujo...yer butthatness is showing! shh!

psst! kujo...Catholics are Christians! did you miss the memo? shh!

psst! kujo...I am not a holder of elected office in the public eye. apples to guavas. yer analogy is poor! shh!

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[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1350062237' post='2492799']
psst! kujo...yer butthatness is showing! shh!

psst! kujo...Catholics are Christians! did you miss the memo? shh!

psst! kujo...I am not a holder of elected office in the public eye. apples to guavas. yer analogy is poor! shh!
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Oh, so you're allowed to be a failed Catholic [i]anonymously[/i], while Joe Biden, and others, are held to a higher standard?

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[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1350063145' post='2492809']
Oh, so you're allowed to be a failed Catholic [i]anonymously[/i], while Joe Biden, and others, are held to a higher standard?
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Actually on one level this makes sense to me. If they are going to place themselves above us common folk, take for themselves the power to rule our property and even our lives, basically if they want to claim rights that normal people do not have, then they had better be heroically virtuous, saintly people.
Since they are not, I reject their claims.

ETA: The best part is that heroically virtuous, saintly people do not claim to be better than the common folk. :smile3:

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PhuturePriest

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1350063304' post='2492811']
Actually on one level this makes sense to me. If they are going to place themselves above us common folk, take for themselves the power to rule our property and even our lives, basically if they want to claim rights that normal people do not have, then they had better be heroically virtuous, saintly people.
Since they are not, I reject their claims.

ETA: The best part is that heroically virtuous, saintly people do not claim to be better than the common folk. :smile3:
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I reject their claims because they are idiots, but this works too.

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[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1350063426' post='2492812']

I reject their claims because they are idiots, but this works too.
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We you not claiming about a month ago that libertarianism is heretical? :smile3:

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[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1350063304' post='2492811']
Actually on one level this makes sense to me. If they are going to place themselves above us common folk, take for themselves the power to rule our property and even our lives, basically if they want to claim rights that normal people do not have, then they had better be heroically virtuous, saintly people.
Since they are not, I reject their claims.

ETA: The best part is that heroically virtuous, saintly people do not claim to be better than the common folk. :smile3:
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First off, they don't "place themselves above us." They run for office and are placed there [b]by we, the people[/b]. If they fail to meet the performance standards of a majority of voters within their voting district, they will be removed from office.

Secondly, I reject the idea that they have to be holier or more virtuous than me. Why? They're supposed to represent us and our interests. They don't have to be popes or priests--they have to be politicians. Intrusive questions about their spirituality are inappropriate and in-germane; keep me and my family safe, help my community with whatever powers your office allows you to have, and try not to spend us into oblivion.

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Groo the Wanderer

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1350063145' post='2492809']

Oh, so you're allowed to be a failed Catholic [i]anonymously[/i], while Joe Biden, and others, are held to a higher standard?
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Egad! Kujo knows my heart. He must be the 4th person of the Trinity. wait. wut? Is that the historical Kujo mayhaps?

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[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1350063591' post='2492814']
First off, they don't "place themselves above us." They run for office and are placed there [b]by we, the people[/b]. If they fail to meet the performance standards of a majority of voters within their voting district, they will be removed from office.
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You think "we, the people" actually run the show?

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[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1350063794' post='2492816']
Egad! Kujo knows my heart. He must be the 4th person of the Trinity. wait. wut? Is that the historical Kujo mayhaps?
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Do you or do you not fall short of the glory and perfection of Jesus Christ? I thought sinfulness was sort of a zero-sum sort of deal; you are either a sinner, or you're Jesus. So, unless I am mistaken, you, me and Joe Biden are all in the same boat. That was my point.

Oh, and 4 people can't be a Trinity--it would be a Square.

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1350063870' post='2492817']
You think "we, the people" actually run the show?
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Oh I didn't know we were being cynical.

You want your senator or congressman gone? Get 50% + 1% of your fellow city/state/countrymen together and vote them out. That's the way it works.

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