This Person Is Constantly Anti Catholic On Fb

[prose]

Not only anti-Catholic, but uninformed and stupid. It's like she buys everything anti-Catholics are selling to secular society. She is EXTREMELY pro choice, and pro-gay marriage. She thinks Cahtolicism is everything wrong with society. She spouts off about Galileo and the inquisition. About how CATHOLICS beat down the natives (no other religion did of course). Gah. It is infuriating.

https://www.facebook.com/vala.grenier

I want to be super gentle in my approach with her, but short of giving her an accurate education on history, I don't know how!

[dominicansoul]

There's another FB personality named "Sharia Law" who goes around saying the same anti-Catholic junk. She shows up on Catholic interest pages and trolls.


Most of the people just ignore her. Blatant trolls are only fueled by attention.

[Papist]

She's Canadian and a self-proclaimed psycho.

[Papist]

[quote name='prose' timestamp='1347981160' post='2483737']
Not only anti-Catholic, but uninformed and stupid. It's like she buys everything anti-Catholics are selling to secular society. She is EXTREMELY pro choice, and pro-gay marriage. She thinks Cahtolicism is everything wrong with society. She spouts off about Galileo and the inquisition. About how CATHOLICS beat down the natives (no other religion did of course). Gah. It is infuriating.

[url="https://www.facebook.com/vala.grenier"]https://www.facebook.com/vala.grenier[/url]

I want to be super gentle in my approach with her, but short of giving her an accurate education on history, I don't know how!
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Ask her where she got her information b/c it piques your interest.

[prose]

I know. I just feel like she spouts of such WRONG information all. the. time. And people read that and buy it. Like a bad virus.

Sigh.

I also am very sad today as I was rejected by someone agressively for my pro life views. I understand it was from a place of pain for her, but it still hurts.

[Ed Normile]

Prose, I do not have nothing to offer you for help with the FB nut although I have been mesmerized by your falling down the stairs person.

ed

[Papist]

Sorry. That is sad.

I dealt with people like this vala person. I do not try to defend or debunk them. I try to figure out where they are getting their information. And at some point, I ask why does this make you so angry? Obviously, she is hurting for some reason, to which it involves the Church.

Edited September 18, 2012 by Papist

[GregorMendel]

Simply de-friend/unfollow her. I wouldn't bother yourself with negative people, and there are plenty of unpleasant people on the internet.

Just keep being a positive force, and hope that she might change her mind.

[PhuturePriest]

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She's Canadian[s] and a self-proclaimed psycho.[/s]
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Fixed.

[Papist]

[quote name='GregorMendel' timestamp='1347987650' post='2483772']
Simply de-friend/unfollow her. I wouldn't bother yourself with negative people, and there are plenty of unpleasant people on the internet.

Just keep being a positive force, and hope that she might change her mind.
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I would do this, but not without planting some seeds first.

[Winchester]

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fxd
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fxd

[Nihil Obstat]

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[s]fxd[/s] ftfy
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FTFY

[Winchester]

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FTFY
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[Basilisa Marie]

[quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1347981452' post='2483739']
Most of the people just ignore her. Blatant trolls are only fueled by attention.
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^THAT.

Sometimes there really isn't anything you can do when people are just that self-convinced of their hatred. It's like fighting a Hydra - every time you think you cut off one head (or argument) three more immediately grow back in its place. Maybe post some good Catholic stuff in your own newsfeed, but if it were me I really wouldn't engage her directly.

[beatitude]

One thing I have been learning in recent years is that debating people can only go so far, and sometimes it's an unhelpful thing to do. There are places in everybody's heart that only God can reach and only God can fully understand a human being. (I was reading something beautiful about this by Mother Mary Francis PCC the other day, in her book [i]I Have Called You Friends[/i].) Sometimes it is kindest just to pray for a person. Pray for their good, that they will know God's love for them and be able to love others. Make the same prayer for yourself.

I have done this with one person I kept encountering online who is a vicious racist (and I don't just mean writing racist insults - he was actually gloating and celebrating when people died, and hoping for more to be killed, all on the basis of their ethnic background). I knew that arguing with him about it wasn't going to change a thing. Hundreds of people must have told him how sick his views were. What good did it do? But I saw a difference through prayer. First I found myself noticing things about him that I hadn't been able to see before, such as how afraid and jaded he himself is. Then I was able to see him with more compassion. He doesn't frighten or disgust me as he did.

I have noticed that when I get tempted to debate with people it's often because they're making me feel insecure or angry in some way by trashing things I value. Sometimes it's just that they irritate me by getting their facts wrong. I remember seeing someone right that all Catholics have to do to get forgiven for horrible crimes like child abuse is 'just go to priesty and say your Hail Marys - simple as'. I had to really grit my teeth then. Saying something might have relieved my feelings, but my feelings were not the most important thing there. This girl was brought up Catholic (even attending a Catholic school, and you know how poor they can be) and right now she doesn't want to set foot in a church ever again. She is not in the right frame of mind for a discussion of her misconceptions on confession, and had I challenged her (no matter how gently) she would probably have just been pushed further away. She's too adamant. I trust that one day she will come back, but it will take time. The best I can do for her now is to pray.