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[quote name='Noel's angel' timestamp='1350844102' post='2495695']
Between you and Annie12, I'm really starting to worry about young women... In a few years time you will look back at the things you have typed and you'll want to erase them from all memory. Honestly.
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[quote name='Noel's angel' timestamp='1350844102' post='2495695']
Between you and Annie12, I'm really starting to worry about young women... In a few years time you will look back at the things you have typed and you'll want to erase them from all memory. Honestly.
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I assume this is about relationships? Don't worry too much. I really do seem to have a similar worldview and way of life to religious Catholics than I do some evangelicals, and cannot marry a non-religious man, and I am interested in and enjoy Armenian and similar cultures. If you mean post 70, then sure that is a stupid reason to choose one church, but it is not the only reason nor is it a reason to stay Orthodox. I'm more obsessed with learning about faith and finding a non-profit or possibly govt. job out toward a major metropolitan area where there is cool culture/international stuff than I am about finding a guy, plus I'm smart enough to recognize that change starts within, then is reflected outside, and sometimes God surprises us. What I really need to work on is not being so desperate to change my job and stuff... Still, you gotta laugh in life...

To the tune of [i]If Your Happy and You Know It[/i]:

If your pathetic and you know it, clap your hands.
If your pathetic and you know it, clap your hands.
If your pathetic and you know it, then your life will surely show it.
If your pathetic and you know it, change you life...

/|\ that seems way more like something to burn from my memory...

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Mark of the Cross

[quote name='Light and Truth' timestamp='1350857996' post='2495750']
. I really do seem to have a similar worldview and way of life to religious Catholics than I do some evangelicals, and cannot marry a non-religious man,
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What would be the issue with marrying a 'non religious' man with the possibility of bringing him to Christ? 'Cannot marry' sounds a bit like Jesus cannot associate with sinners. I would think that any Catholic faced with a suitor who 'claimed' to be non religious would need to do some serious praying to see what God intended! :)

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[quote name='Mark of the Cross' timestamp='1350936055' post='2495966']
What would be the issue with marrying a 'non religious' man with the possibility of bringing him to Christ? 'Cannot marry' sounds a bit like Jesus cannot associate with sinners. I would think that any Catholic faced with a suitor who 'claimed' to be non religious would need to do some serious praying to see what God intended! :)
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If the two become one, do I really want to be one with someone who rejects what is (or at least should be) most important in my life? Marrying isn't just about being friends like Jesus was. Marrying is like Jesus and us. Also, I would view such a union as choosing to be unequally yoked, as we were told not to do in 2. Cor.

Also, I want to know that the father of my children will raise them as Christians, should I even die young and he remain, not out of a promise to me but out of the conviction of his own heart, demonstrating that our Lord is important. A non-believer cannot give me that. Why should I marry someone who I know won't give me something that is important to me?

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[quote name='Light and Truth' timestamp='1350943598' post='2496024']
If the two become one, do I really want to be one with someone who rejects what is (or at least should be) most important in my life? Marrying isn't just about being friends like Jesus was. Marrying is like Jesus and us. Also, I would view such a union as choosing to be unequally yoked, as we were told not to do in 2. Cor.

Also, I want to know that the father of my children will raise them as Christians, should I even die young and he remain, not out of a promise to me but out of the conviction of his own heart, demonstrating that our Lord is important. A non-believer cannot give me that. Why should I marry someone who I know won't give me something that is important to me?
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Are you saying a partner has to be Catholic or Christian or do you mean has to be not Atheist? And I think the idea of becoming 'one' in marriage is a bit of a fairy tale. It's only practical to a certain extent. Marriage is tough and to a great extent you need your individuality to survive it. And people are very different. Just because a person is Catholic doesn't necessarily mean that makes them more desirable as a life partner. I have many agnostic friends who are more Christian than many of the Catholics that I know and I could never accept the God of love rejecting them. I can see him working through them without their awareness. It's only a small step for them to see Christ in what they do for others. I'd give up on Catholicism if it weren't for the fact that I see the devils work in the things that happen that would be my deterrent. We have saints at the top end, but unfortunately there is also a bottom end, so be aware. A person of Christian behavior would be far better than a failed Catholic. When I was house building I made the mistake of hiring only Catholic tradesmen because I thought they would do an honest job for honest charges. How wrong was that assumption! But as the Apostles said to Jesus. To whom would I turn? All other religions and denominations are full of just as many faults, but non would do more than the enormous amount of social justice that is done by the RC. And it's those good works that attracts me. Without the RC I would not have had my experience of East Timor and the lone sheep is easy prey for the wolf! For what it's worth my wife is Catholic and for her sake I became Catholic and raised our children as Catholic. Still haven't been able to decide if there was merit in that or not. Wife doesn't really practice Catholicism in a liturgical sense but is very Christian in her treatment of others My sons partner is Greek orthodox. They are private about their religious convictions and I don't intrude. My daughter is a cancer nurse and finds it difficult to come to terms with a God of love who lets her friends suffer and die horrible deaths when she shows so much love and compassion. But I'm working on that issue and I like to fool myself that I'm achieving something. The only thing that is important is Christian behavior. Only God is good, all that is good comes from God. Look for someone who is good.

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So the solution to being bored is to bump L&T's less than tactful conversion thread? :P

 

Tbh I always thought she was already Orthodox.

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So the solution to being bored is to bump L&T's less than tactful conversion thread? :P

 

Tbh I always thought she was already Orthodox.

 

You probably were night aware of some of the things I posted prior to 2009.

 

http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/topic/36535-l-t-describes-her-faith/

 

http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/topic/37183-odd-question/

 

I first set foot in an Orthodox church in 2007 or 2008, but then not again until 2010.

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KnightofChrist

Who's the dude you always have as your avatar? For a long time I thought you were a man because of it for some reason. :p

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Who's the dude you always have as your avatar? For a long time I thought you were a man because of it for some reason. :P

 

Jose Mourinho, speaks 5 languages, won a soccer/futball trophy every year since 2005, won a lot of them, currently coaches for Real Madrid, very expressive/Portuguese, dresses nicely, has an honorary masters degree, number 7 on a list a couple years ago of most influential Catholics (even if he did have an affair at once point), and he was a celebrity crush. He is loved by his players, and I admire the dedication that goes into what he has done.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_ai5C-pBhc



Before that, it was sort of goth, possibly Emilee Autumn, and probably a little Stephen Colbert, but not in that order.

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I once went to an Orthodox church in Ohio. It was my first time, so rather bewildering. It's still all kind of a blur. But there is one thing I'll never forget. Here's that part from my journal:

 

"...an old lady approached me—one who must have been sitting behind me—and leaned over, saying softly, kindly, “What church do you go to?” her accent was straight out of My Big Fat Greek Wedding. “Roman Catholic,” i said, and smiled. “Oh!” she smiled back, with tender eyes, “We’re almost the same!” i laughed quietly, flashing back to, “That’s ok! I’ll make lamb!”"

 

Congratulations. :-)

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 i said, and smiled. “Oh!” she smiled back, with tender eyes, “We’re almost the same!”

 

 

<3

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