emmaberry101 Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Thank you everyone for your kind suggestions! I will type more when I am at a computer. I just wanted to post and say that I messaged Abbie Reese a couple weeks ago on her kick starter site profile, and she messaged back! I was hoping to ask about her experiences meeting with the Poor Clares. I mentioned her really great photo and audio history essays (not the right word for her project) earlier in this thread. You can find the interviews on Amazon and the pictures at ErasedFromtheLandscape.com (no spaces though). I will get the Picasa link working as soon as I am home-so sorry about that! Also, may you all have a blessed Solemnity of the Seraphic Saint Francis, although I suppose now we are still in the 'Vigil' stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiquitunga Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 [quote name='emmaberry101' timestamp='1349316872' post='2489787']Also, may you all have a blessed Solemnity of the Seraphic Saint Francis, although I suppose now we are still in the 'Vigil' stage. [/quote] Well, but the [url="http://penitents.org/transitus.htm"]Transitus[/url] stage which is a very holy and special time I wish I had been able to attend a Transitus service tonight .. well, there's always youtube He died on the evening of the 3rd .. p.s. great that you contacted Abbie! Reminds me that I still need to say hi myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmaberry101 Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Thank you Chiquitunga-I had no idea about 'Transitus', that is so interesting! The priest who celebrated Mass today was so devout, and his homily on Saint Francis was wonderful. He brought the I Thirst spirituality of the MCs cohesively into the spirituality of Saint Francis. It was wonderful, and the Sisters just light up when their Mother Teresa/MC Spirituality is mentioned in the homily. Every Thursday is a day of total silence, Exposition of the Blessed Sacrament, and prayer so I am able to experience more of their prayer life on this 'set apart' day, which is wonderful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscerningCatholic Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Emma, are you joining a cloistered order or a non-cloistered order??? There are so many orders of Franciscan/Poor Clare sisters that I can't keep 'em all straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySunshine Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 [quote name='DiscerningCatholic' timestamp='1349361000' post='2489919'] Emma, are you joining a cloistered order or a non-cloistered order??? There are so many orders of Franciscan/Poor Clare sisters that I can't keep 'em all straight. [/quote] She's joining a strictly enclosed order -- the Poor Clare Colettines in Roswell, NM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmaberry101 Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 I love VS! We all know each other so well that I don't have to answer hardly any questions. thanks MM. Yes, DiscerningCatholic, the PCCs take a vow of enclosure. You are so right though that there are many Poor Clares whose enclosure is not so strict anymore. I believe laxity concerning the enclosure may have been one reason for St Colette's reform (more like 'reversion' to the strict original observance.) This will be great motivation for me to read Walled In Light again! Most Franciscan sisters are not cloistered-but there are so many it can be hard to keep them straight. The Franciscan Order has about/over 1 million worldwide. No wonder we get them all a little confused! I wanted to ask for advice on any questions I should ask Abbie Reese when I speak with her. I'm going to prepare a sheet of questions beforehand...ever speak with someone about something important, and as soon as you hang up you remember a really significant thing you forgot to say? I do not want that to happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscerningCatholic Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I think I have cloisterphobia. The DSMME's aren't cloistered anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarisStella Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) [quote name='DiscerningCatholic' timestamp='1349376749' post='2489991'] I think I have cloisterphobia. The DSMME's aren't cloistered anyway. [/quote] I had cloisterphobia for a while, too! When I first started discerning, I just convinced myself that I could never be cloistered and I was not called to that life. I was looking around at communities and once I found out they were cloistered I would immediately cross them off my list, so to speak, and quickly get off their website, haha! But now, I am discerning with a cloistered community! The Holy Spirit is to blame for that, I'd say. Edited October 5, 2012 by MarisStella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmaberry101 Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) [quote name='MarisStella' timestamp='1349396461' post='2490112'] I had cloisterphobia for a while, too! When I first started discerning, I just convinced myself that I could never be cloistered and I was not called to that life. I was looking around at communities and once I found out they were cloistered I would immediately cross them off my list, so to speak, and quickly get off their website, haha! But now, I am discerning with a cloistered community! The Holy Spirit is to blame for that, I'd say. [/quote] We had a discussion here once about how many more girls leave active life to enter the cloister than vice versa. The conclusion was that many girls with a call to religious life have cloisterphobia, so most of them do not discern any cloistered communities. However, very few girls enter the cloister without discerning the active religious life, so the statistics makes sense. Note: I don't have any actual statistics for you. On another note, here are some wonderful news articles about Shelly Pennefather, now Sister Rose Marie of the Queen of Angels, pro-basketball-player-turned-PCC. She joined the Poor Clare Colettines in Alexandria, Virginia, which was founded from Roswell (seen in the genealogy below). [img]http://www.poorclarecolettines-cleveland.org/img/gallery/geneology.jpg[/img] Her story has been mentioned on VS, but there are many articles that haven't been mentioned, so I thought I'd post them: [url="http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/catholic_stories/cs0038.html"]http://www.catholice...ies/cs0038.html[/url] [url="http://articles.philly.com/1993-03-10/sports/25951435_1_villanova-cloister-lynn-tighe"]http://articles.phil...ster-lynn-tighe[/url] [url="http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1997-09-19/features/9709190035_1_lovely-japan-god"]http://articles.chic...ovely-japan-god[/url] [url="http://books.google.com/books?id=aZz2Qc0pFEoC&pg=PA153&lpg=PA153&dq=pennefather+cloister&source=bl&ots=Hgnaxi2FVc&sig=FhwDloJQAs8ZcVJXcxE8YV9A97k&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IelwUMytNObQ2AXn0oHACw&ved=0CEkQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=pennefather%20cloister&f=false"]http://books.google....loister&f=false[/url] (<--This is a google book preview, so it may not direct you to the proper part from the link.) [url="http://archive.apsportseditors.org/contest/2003/writing/over250/over250.features.third.html"]http://archive.apspo...ures.third.html[/url] [img]http://www.catholiceducation.org/images/miscellaneous/pennefather2.JPG[/img] By the way, I am back from the Missionaries of Charity! I am going to go back for another week in November, probably. I did end up getting to pray more with them, and the benefit another community might provide (more prayer time with them, etc) would be outweighed by the cost of travel and the inconvenience it would pose for Mother, who would have to call the new community and 'screen' them before I could go stay with them-she is protective of her prospective daughters. It is so sweet. Anyway, it will be good to just honor the commitment I made, and the situation could be much worse! Like I said, the Sisters are extremely kind and the Superior wouldn't even accept my donation. They knew Mother Teresa very intimately and talk about her even more than I talk about Mother Mary Francis. Please pray for me..I would so appreciate it, as I am going through some spiritual battles right now. I visited my college friends this weekend, and being back on campus brought about a lot of temptations as well-although it was so nice to visit with my friends again! Edit: 14 weeks until my entrance! I know they will fly by like sand through fingertips-there is so much to do, and knowing much of it will probably be left unfinished is difficult. I am learning to treasure every moment, especially as they are beginning to slip away from me. Edited October 7, 2012 by emmaberry101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristinaTherese Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 99 days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniJesuAmorMi Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 [quote name='emmaberry101' timestamp='1349579622' post='2490860'] 14 weeks until my entrance! I know they will fly by like sand through fingertips-there is so much to do, and knowing much of it will probably be left unfinished is difficult. I am learning to treasure every moment, especially as they are beginning to slip away from me. [/quote] Prayers for you, Emmaberry! Like you said, before you know it you'll be there at the enclosure door. This must be an exciting time as you prepare. In the monastery, because of the way enclosed life is, you'll learn to treasure every moment in there even more. Because of poverty, not even time will be wasted. It is such a full life and it brings out so much meaning and appreciation for everything around you and what you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmaberry101 Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 [quote name='VeniJesuAmorMi' timestamp='1349620033' post='2490939'] Prayers for you, Emmaberry! Like you said, before you know it you'll be there at the enclosure door. This must be an exciting time as you prepare. In the monastery, because of the way enclosed life is, you'll learn to treasure every moment in there even more. Because of poverty, not even time will be wasted. It is such a full life and it brings out so much meaning and appreciation for everything around you and what you do. [/quote] I am out of props but this is so beautiful. Also, I LOVE the quote in your signature. I am definitely not called to Carmel, but I really admire Saint Teresa and how forthright she could be about things. Her quotes really 'pack a punch' in a single phrase...her feast is coming upon us quickly as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inperpetuity Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 [i]"I am going to go back for another week in November, probably. I did end up getting to pray more with them, and the benefit another community might provide (more prayer time with them, etc) would be outweighed by the cost of travel and the inconvenience it would pose for Mother, who would have to call the new community and 'screen' them before I could go stay with them-she is protective of her prospective daughters. It is so sweet"[/i] Good. This is so exciting! Prayers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmaberry101 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 [quote name='inperpetuity' timestamp='1349662880' post='2491094'] [i]"I am going to go back for another week in November, probably. I did end up getting to pray more with them, and the benefit another community might provide (more prayer time with them, etc) would be outweighed by the cost of travel and the inconvenience it would pose for Mother, who would have to call the new community and 'screen' them before I could go stay with them-she is protective of her prospective daughters. It is so sweet"[/i] Good. This is so exciting! Prayers.. [/quote] May God reward you for your prayers, inperpetuity! Sometimes when I am having an especially hard time I remember the prayers of the phamily, and it really helps me. On a different note (no pun intended), my friend would like to start chanting the LOTH (monotone chant), and I am having trouble finding a video/audio example for her of how to do it. Most videos online are of chanting that is definitely not monotone, though it is beautiful! I would make her an example audio clip myself, but I am currently sick and my vocal chords are not even allowing me to chant! I think it's the pollution of Dallas-my voice starting acting up the day after I arrived. Thank you for any help on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillion Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETBg2ckXfjw&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETBg2ckXfjw&feature=related[/url] Is this what you mean as monotone (Gregorian Chant)? Are you asking about in English or in Latin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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