mortify Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) Just remember, Islam is a religion of peace. It is perfectly consistent with Western values. [mod]inappropriate photo for younger members/mature content[/mod] Edited September 18, 2012 by Lil Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) [quote name='mortify' timestamp='1347676408' post='2482526'] Just remember, Islam is a religion of peace. It is perfectly consistent with Western values. [mod]inappropriate photo for younger members/mature content[/mod] [/quote] Don't you belong to some sort of non-Western, freedom hating race? Also, why is that one guy wearing skinny jeans? Edited September 18, 2012 by Lil Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1347672709' post='2482496'] Telling another nation you consider them an enemy is a smart thing to do? [/quote] Worked for Reagan. I don't see the USSR the DDR or the Warsaw Pact around anywhere...do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1347677073' post='2482531'] Don't you belong to some sort of non-Western, freedom hating race? Also, why is that one guy wearing skinny jeans? [/quote]Really? That's what got you? Not the guy that is eating a cellphone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 [quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1347677150' post='2482533'] Worked for Reagan.[/QUOTE] Yeah. That was real bad when those guys killed all those Marines in Libya under Carter's watch. They wouldn't have pulled that poo under Reagan [QUOTE] I don't see the USSR the DDR or the Warsaw Pact around anywhere...do you? [/quote] The Soviet Union didn't collapse under Reagan. Nor did his policies have much to do with the collapse of the USSR. The one real substantive thing he did do to bring about the collapse of the USSR was not actually follow through on most of his hyperbole and recognize Gorbachev as somebody worth reaching out to. He does deserve credit for doing that. Individual like George Will (aka that Owlish twit to Vonnegut readers) in his base chastised him for it and in fact claimed, stupidly, that Reagan had effectively ceded a victory to the Soviets. External policies didn't have much to do with the collapse of the USSR. But had Reagan been a much more confrontational figure the collapse may well have been delayed as the conservatives in the Kremlin may have been able to better fight Gorbachev's reforms.[quote name='ardillacid' timestamp='1347678247' post='2482551'] Really? That's what got you? Not the guy that is eating a cellphone? [/quote] I actually wanted to make a joke about the cell phone in the mouth that would have probably gotten me banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 You have to have a calm stable outlook on things and a smart response; knee jerk reactions are dangerous, especially on this type of thing. That's how a Christopher Stephens becomes an Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1347678380' post='2482554'] You have to have a calm stable outlook on things and a smart response; knee jerk reactions are dangerous, especially on this type of thing. That's how a Christopher Stephens becomes an Archduke Franz Ferdinand. [/quote] You just don't know how to deal properly with Serbian agitators. Arabs aren't like us. They only understand force. Uggghhh... I meant to say Serbs. I forgot that when Ferdinand was shot Balkan peoples were also considered unreformable non-westerners and Arabs were considered whites. Edited September 15, 2012 by Hasan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 The Ambassador's body was found in a hospital and apparently officials are confirming that American forces did not get him there. Additionally, it also seems that is is extremely possible that the group of people seen holding the body are actually the individuals who carried his body to the hospital and not the individuals who attacked the building and murdered the Ambassador. It seems that the Arabic language channels that covered the event from the ground identified in the pictures now being circulated as depicting a bloodthirsty mod dragging the body through the streets observed them as a crowd actually trying to help him after the attackers had fled the scene. [url="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/graphic-photos-allegedly-show-attempt-to-rescue-u-s-ambassador-content-warning/"]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/graphic-photos-allegedly-show-attempt-to-rescue-u-s-ambassador-content-warning/[/url] What's the truth? who knows. Libyans did carry him to the hospital. Who knows why. But maybe we should find out before we start just dropping napalm on a large, civilian center. Some people committed a very serious crime and need to be captured but the whole city and country was not complicit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Not our ally. Not our enemy. Then what are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1347680382' post='2482565'] Not our ally. Not our enemy. Then what are they? [/quote] We probably don't know yet. I mean, we're not even positive who is really in charge yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 just another country. not every country needs to be an ally or an enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 The why is it necessary for BHO to make such a statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I dunno, he probably could have done without it. especially since the state department considers them "still an ally" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Now it makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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