Female Priests?

[cmaD2006]

[quote name='Spem in alium' timestamp='1347572141' post='2482110']
I'm at a liberal arts school. It identifies as Catholic Benedictine, but some of the views expressed and some of what goes on here are far from Catholic.
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First of all ... I question any program that puts a Lutheran professor into a theology course. I mean I figured the prof may well be feminist (and the school, just from the description of the one student, I was taking a big leap and assuming that it was quite feminist), but to put a lutheran professor on a class that is about (supposedly) catholic theology, especially at a Catholic university is way off.

Sorry to sound strong about this ... I had all the intentions of getting through a Masters of Theology program. Got an A in the first class (and I think an A on the 2nd ... I was on a health hold and never got the 2nd grade). But the theology I was being taught really rattled me to the core. That's when I realized how feminist the school was (the 1st class had some traces of it, the intro to theology class (the 2nd) the claws came out full force). It irks me too -- because some of us are really trying to get a solid education, and it is hard to do so in a cost effective manner at a good school.

Don't know what you're studying Spem ... just do what you need to to do well in the course. And use your conscience to decide what is right and wrong.

[quote name='Spem in alium' timestamp='1347572141' post='2482110']
I don't really understand why she would call herself a Roman Catholic if - and she said this herself - she is "out of communion with the Vatican". It sounds super goofy - beyond that, even.
So, do they think that women can actually perform Mass? Is that what they do? How do these kinds of communities even start?
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Do a websearch online about Womenpriests (no spacing). That'll give you some history behind it. Yes the women involved actually get some sort of training (don't know if everyone does at least a Masters ... they can't do a MDiv, but they try to get as close as they can to it. There are priests that train these women on the rubrics on how to do the Mass, and these priests usually do it quietly since their actions technically excommunicate them. They are usually ordained on boats. And they do go off and open their own Churches.

You'd be surprized what you can find out there ... I read about womenpriests and other catholic groups in schism (at least) when I considered leaving the Church. Some groups are ultra conservative. Some groups are ultra liberal. And everything in between. The common denominator is that by each group's actions they are no longer under the authority of the Pope.

I made a decision after going through that temptation/trial. I am Roman Catholic. And as such, I choose to be obedient to Church Authority and accept her teachings. Regardless of what my personal opinions are. Period.

[sixpence]

if she said anything about it again I might kindly ask why she has not become a "priest" in a religion that actually has women in that role.

[Spem in alium]

[quote name='cmariadiaz' timestamp='1347640606' post='2482349']
First of all ... I question any program that puts a Lutheran professor into a theology course. I mean I figured the prof may well be feminist (and the school, just from the description of the one student, I was taking a big leap and assuming that it was quite feminist), but to put a lutheran professor on a class that is about (supposedly) catholic theology, especially at a Catholic university is way off.

Sorry to sound strong about this ... I had all the intentions of getting through a Masters of Theology program. Got an A in the first class (and I think an A on the 2nd ... I was on a health hold and never got the 2nd grade). But the theology I was being taught really rattled me to the core. That's when I realized how feminist the school was (the 1st class had some traces of it, the intro to theology class (the 2nd) the claws came out full force). It irks me too -- because some of us are really trying to get a solid education, and it is hard to do so in a cost effective manner at a good school.

Don't know what you're studying Spem ... just do what you need to to do well in the course. And use your conscience to decide what is right and wrong.

Do a websearch online about Womenpriests (no spacing). That'll give you some history behind it. Yes the women involved actually get some sort of training (don't know if everyone does at least a Masters ... they can't do a MDiv, but they try to get as close as they can to it. There are priests that train these women on the rubrics on how to do the Mass, and these priests usually do it quietly since their actions technically excommunicate them. They are usually ordained on boats. And they do go off and open their own Churches.

You'd be surprized what you can find out there ... I read about womenpriests and other catholic groups in schism (at least) when I considered leaving the Church. Some groups are ultra conservative. Some groups are ultra liberal. And everything in between. The common denominator is that by each group's actions they are no longer under the authority of the Pope.

I made a decision after going through that temptation/trial. I am Roman Catholic. And as such, I choose to be obedient to Church Authority and accept her teachings. Regardless of what my personal opinions are. Period.
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The course examines broader Christian theology, but it is hard for me to align my views with some of the stuff we talk about. I think my prof is also a pastor, she mentioned something along those lines. When this girl started off by saying she was part of a "Roman Catholic female priest community", my mind just went: "WHAAAAAAT?" And after she mentioned her involvement with this community, my prof said something like, "If you're interested or want more information about female priests, just ask." I really do like my prof, she's great, but I think she could have facilitated discussion a little better maybe. These kinds of things can be really offensive for people, and they can lead to arguments.
Thanks for your advice. I will research them. I think it's important to know things, but I prefer to learn in a way that doesn't compromise or threaten my beliefs or morality enough to make me doubt what I hold true.

[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1347650145' post='2482390']
if she said anything about it again I might kindly ask why she has not become a "priest" in a religion that actually has women in that role.
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That's a good point, I'll do that Thank you!

[Slappo]

[quote name='cmariadiaz' timestamp='1347640606' post='2482349']
First of all ... I question any program that puts a Lutheran professor into a theology course. [/quote]

Franciscan did it with an Anglican . It really depends on the course being taught, and the willingness of the professor to set aside theological differences and teach what the Catholic Church teaches. This particular Anglican was teaching a theology course on C.S. Lewis, so it probably fit better to be taught by an Anglican.

[CatherineM]

Our school allows women to study for MDivs. They just take electives instead of the preaching class or the one in saying mass.

[Spem in alium]

[quote name='Slappo' timestamp='1347654692' post='2482409']
Franciscan did it with an Anglican . It really depends on the course being taught, and the willingness of the professor to set aside theological differences and teach what the Catholic Church teaches. This particular Anglican was teaching a theology course on C.S. Lewis, so it probably fit better to be taught by an Anglican.
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Yeah. This prof wrote the course, so I guess they couldn't really get another person to teach it.

[Groo the Wanderer]

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[cmaD2006]

[quote name='Slappo' timestamp='1347654692' post='2482409']
Franciscan did it with an Anglican . It really depends on the course being taught, and the willingness of the professor to set aside theological differences and teach what the Catholic Church teaches. This particular Anglican was teaching a theology course on C.S. Lewis, so it probably fit better to be taught by an Anglican.
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Ok I kind of follow that. But it does have to be done with care. At the university I was at, the intro to theology course was taught by a religious sister on a feminist agenda. So I guess religion isn't necessarily a guarantee to faithful teaching.