Groo the Wanderer Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 gofer it! its a beautiful rite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) Turns out there is also a Maronite parish here in my diocese. I guess it just never occurred to me to check. Not only that, but the Maronite patriarch visited in May and I did not know about it. Edit: Nvm, that was in Edmonton. Close, but not quite there. I still do not know what the interior of the Calgary parish looks like. [img]https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577549_393329730711362_364375106_n.jpg[/img] Edited September 9, 2012 by Nihil Obstat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmenchristi Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 One of my "sisters" is from Lebanon. She sometimes goes to the Maronite Liturgy... I was going to go with her once, but I had to play the organ for the off tune old ladies so I missed out. Just a random comment, I can't really add anything to what others have said. I've been to a Byzantine Liturgy several times, and even sang in the choir in Church Slovonic... that was an adventure, esp. since I'm not very good at reading Cyrillic... I mostly stuck to the transliterated texts. But I have no idea how similar the Liturgies are. I think the Maronite Liturgy is in Arabic... that's all I can tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 [quote name='carmenchristi' timestamp='1347207423' post='2480589'] One of my "sisters" is from Lebanon. She sometimes goes to the Maronite Liturgy... I was going to go with her once, but I had to play the organ for the off tune old ladies so I missed out. Just a random comment, I can't really add anything to what others have said. I've been to a Byzantine Liturgy several times, and even sang in the choir in Church Slovonic... that was an adventure, esp. since I'm not very good at reading Cyrillic... I mostly stuck to the transliterated texts. But I have no idea how similar the Liturgies are. I think the Maronite Liturgy is in Arabic... that's all I can tell you. [/quote] I have read so far that the official language of the Maronite Church is Syriac, which I think is a specific variety of Aramaic. However I do not know to what extent vernacularization has taken place in their Divine Liturgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmenchristi Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1347207794' post='2480592'] I have read so far that the official language of the Maronite Church is Syriac, which I think is a specific variety of Aramaic. However I do not know to what extent vernacularization has taken place in their Divine Liturgy. [/quote] I'm sure you are right... I was just guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 [quote name='carmenchristi' timestamp='1347208729' post='2480595'] I'm sure you are right... I was just guessing. [/quote] Arabic was a pretty solid guess, because you can write that off as mishearing somebody say Aramaic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 [quote name='cmariadiaz' timestamp='1347177382' post='2480533'] That was uncalled for. [/quote] It does not behoove one to wantonly dismiss a source which was found, [url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4530930.stm"]in 2005, to have about the same level of accuracy as the Encyclopedia Britannica.[/url] I am confident that its content has improved since that time, in both accuracy and depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaD2006 Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1347215491' post='2480643'] It does not behoove one to wantonly dismiss a source which was found, [url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4530930.stm"]in 2005, to have about the same level of accuracy as the Encyclopedia Britannica.[/url] I am confident that its content has improved since that time, in both accuracy and depth. [/quote] Except ... I was saying I wanted a source other than Wikipedia. Is there anything wrong with that? I never said (read my posts) that I was "wantonly dismissing the source." As I said -- what you originally said was uncalled for. Again, all I said is that I wanted another source other than Wikipedia. I never even said "Wikipedia is unreliable" or "Wikipedia is all bad." I'm *really* not up for any snarky remarks. And I read yours as snarky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaD2006 Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1347207794' post='2480592'] I have read so far that the official language of the Maronite Church is Syriac, which I think is a specific variety of Aramaic. However I do not know to what extent vernacularization has taken place in their Divine Liturgy. [/quote] From what I have been able to understand, the consecration is done in Aramaic. But other parts are in the vernacular (including the Readings). I may attend one of the English liturgies to see what is different (instead of the Spanish one). I like anonymity,and in the Spanish community I'd have none. Cappie gave me a good response in Q&A! I liked his explanations. I *knew* that the Maronites are in line with Rome ... and I have been clear with my wording, but some people have said "they're Roman Catholic" which is wrong, but they're Catholics in line with Rome. Yet others have said "they aren't Catholic", which is wrong (unless they mean "they're not Roman Catholic" then they're right -- but we can attend and it is fully valid). Ah, this is going to be interesting within the Spanish community; I guess it is a good teaching moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaD2006 Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 [quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1347194380' post='2480556'] gofer it! its a beautiful rite [/quote] I may try it once ... but I usually do not like Masses that go into a non-vernacular language. I have a hard time as it is focusing on the words and on what is happening, and going into another language (Latin) just makes me lose concentration that much more. It is a personal thing, not anything against it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 [quote name='cmariadiaz' timestamp='1347224023' post='2480729'] From what I have been able to understand, the consecration is done in Aramaic. But other parts are in the vernacular (including the Readings). I may attend one of the English liturgies to see what is different (instead of the Spanish one). I like anonymity,and in the Spanish community I'd have none. Cappie gave me a good response in Q&A! I liked his explanations. I *knew* that the Maronites are in line with Rome ... and I have been clear with my wording, but some people have said "they're Roman Catholic" which is wrong, but they're Catholics in line with Rome. Yet others have said "they aren't Catholic", which is wrong (unless they mean "they're not Roman Catholic" then they're right -- but we can attend and it is fully valid). Ah, this is going to be interesting within the Spanish community; I guess it is a good teaching moment [/quote] It is kind of a sad observation of our Catholic community that the large majority are completely ignorant of the other Churches in communion with Rome. If we call the East and the West the two lungs of the Church, then not even knowing that one lung exists is quite the handicap. I did not know either, for a long time, because my Catholic education was woefully inadequate. There is a lot we Latin Catholics can learn from distinctively Eastern spirituality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 [url="http://www.eparchy.org/"]http://www.eparchy.org/[/url] This seems to be the official web site of the Maronite diocese of the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaD2006 Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 [quote name='Luigi' timestamp='1347224670' post='2480739'] [url="http://www.eparchy.org/"]http://www.eparchy.org/[/url] This seems to be the official web site of the Maronite diocese of the United States. [/quote] OOOH this looks good. Thanks Luigi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaD2006 Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 And wait -- it looks like there is some sort of liturgical book on the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaD2006 Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 Oh and yes -- the new parish in my area is listed on the website that Luigi pointed to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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