Papist Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 [url="http://video.foxnews.com/v/1813008628001/"]http://video.foxnews.com/v/1813008628001/[/url] [url="http://www.facebook.com/OccupyUnmasked"]http://www.facebook.com/OccupyUnmasked[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle_eye222001 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Definitely going to have to see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 [quote name='eagle_eye222001' timestamp='1347130997' post='2480332'] Definitely going to have to see this. [/quote] Me too. Especially since I seen them first hand this past week in my home town, which hosted the DNC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 HSdad and I will probably see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Jesus Through Mary Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1347149631' post='2480393'] Me too. Especially since I seen them first hand this past week in my home town, which hosted the DNC. [/quote] Did you see anything as extreme as they are showing in that preview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 [quote name='To Jesus Through Mary' timestamp='1347194108' post='2480554'] Did you see anything as extreme as they are showing in that preview? [/quote] Somewhat. I did witness them totally disregarding the law, when the law was fair and patient. It really seems that many want confrontation. The hatred for police they shown was insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Jesus Through Mary Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1347194511' post='2480559'] Somewhat. I did witness them totally disregarding the law, when the law was fair and patient. It really seems that many want confrontation. The [b]hatred for police[/b] they shown was insane. [/quote] I wonder why that is. I mean besides that is what is popular in the group. I guess I am just curious if they really understand what the ramifications of anarchy would be, and if that is something they really desire. Because even in that short clip you see signs "Marx was right" and then an anarchy symbol. Those seem to contradict each other. One if for government control (really government in place of God) and the other for none. As an aside to the Marxist in the group, I wonder if they ever thought about the fact that there was no nation in which communism benefited the 99%. Edited September 9, 2012 by To Jesus Through Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the171 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I have to see this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 [quote name='To Jesus Through Mary' timestamp='1347195909' post='2480562'] I wonder why that is. I mean besides that is what is popular in the group. I guess I am just curious if they really understand what the ramifications of anarchy would be, and if that is something they really desire. Because even in that short clip you see signs "Marx was right" and then an anarchy symbol. Those seem to contradict each other. One if for government control (really government in place of God) and the other for none. As an aside to the Marxist in the group, I wonder if they ever thought about the fact that there was no nation in which communism benefited the 99%. [/quote] Yes. Very curious that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 [quote name='To Jesus Through Mary' timestamp='1347195909' post='2480562'] Because even in that short clip you see signs "Marx was right" and then an anarchy symbol. Those seem to contradict each other. One if for government control (really government in place of God) and the other for none. As an aside to the Marxist in the group, I wonder if they ever thought about the fact that there was no nation in which communism benefited the 99%. [/quote] That's not true. In Marxism the normative political arrangement is the dissolution of the state. Your claim that 'Marxism' has never benefited the '99%' is also false. Marxist groups have done a lot in the 20th century to benefit the less powerful. A major component of the civil rights movement was Marxist or Marx inspired groups. Hence the continual claim by the conservatives that King was just some beaver dam commie. Marxists fought the Nazi's in the Balkans and France et cetera. A lot of the labor rights that we have in this country were driven into political acceptability by marxist and other leftist movements. Where do you think the 8 hour work day came from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 [quote name='Papist' timestamp='1347058911' post='2480066'] [url="http://video.foxnews.com/v/1813008628001/"]http://video.foxnews.../1813008628001/[/url] [url="http://www.facebook.com/OccupyUnmasked"]http://www.facebook.com/OccupyUnmasked[/url] [/quote] Breitbart is not somebody who has a great track record with demonstrating an even very basic understanding of honesty or integrity. I'm highly suspicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1347236555' post='2480806'] Breitbart is not somebody who has a great track record with demonstrating an even very basic understanding of honesty or integrity. I'm highly suspicious [/quote] [quote name='catholicinsd' timestamp='1208223290' post='1499670'] It is not couthed to speak illy of the dead. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1347236555' post='2480806'] Breitbart is not somebody who has a great track record with demonstrating an even very basic understanding of honesty or integrity. I'm highly suspicious [/quote] . As opposed to the "Honesty" on ABC, CBS and NBC??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 [quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1347237143' post='2480812'] [/quote][quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1347237143' post='2480812'] [/quote] I don't think that's really fair. Breitbart has presented tapes that severely manipulated the truth. He seemed like a fun guy. I enjoyed watching him on Red Eye and I was sad to see that he died. But if he didn't want people pointing out that he tended to have a strained relationship with the truth journalistic integrity after he died then he shouldn't have presented manipulatively edited tapes while alive. I really have no reason to believe that this will be a balanced presentation of the Occupy movement given his track record. That's fine. Everything doesn't have to be objective. But I do reserve the right to not take anything he presents at face value given his track record. That doesn't mean that I won't believe anything he produced ever, it just means that I think once has to be particularly suspicious when you're seeing something from Breitbart. That'd be true if Ed Schultz produced a movie on the tea party. Maybe it'd be on the up and up. But given Schultz's eagerness to put republicans and conservatives in the worst light possible you should be particularly wary when you're taking in information from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1347239288' post='2480821'] I don't think that's really fair. Breitbart has presented tapes that severely manipulated the truth. He seemed like a fun guy. I enjoyed watching him on Red Eye and I was sad to see that he died. But if he didn't want people pointing out that he tended to have a strained relationship with the truth journalistic integrity after he died then he shouldn't have presented manipulatively edited tapes while alive. I really have no reason to believe that this will be a balanced presentation of the Occupy movement given his track record. That's fine. Everything doesn't have to be objective. But I do reserve the right to not take anything he presents at face value given his track record. That doesn't mean that I won't believe anything he produced ever, it just means that I think once has to be particularly suspicious when you're seeing something from Breitbart. That'd be true if Ed Schultz produced a movie on the tea party. Maybe it'd be on the up and up. But given Schultz's eagerness to put republicans and conservatives in the worst light possible you should be particularly wary when you're taking in information from him. [/quote] I was just pointing out a well-known truth of Phatmass posting as summed up by our dear friend Catholicinsd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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