PhuturePriest Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 [quote name='Ed Normile' timestamp='1346568997' post='2477540'] Would it not be cheaper to just buy a paper sack? ed [/quote] It would not look near as razzle dazzle and the benefits would be none as compared to at least twenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJon16 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 That is actually pretty razzle dazzle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 [quote name='BigJon16' timestamp='1346607005' post='2477607'] That is actually pretty razzle dazzle... [/quote] Aha! We have lured you in as well! When we go on our dual live-in we should both wear shemaghs and video-tape the reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Step 1: Become missionary priest. Step 2: Get assigned to a country in the middle east. Step 3: Be extremely successful. Optional step 3.5: Found religious order Step 4: After several decades or perhaps a century, through the process of organic development and authentic inculturation, the shemagh becomes approved locally as a liturgical vestment for Mass in your former liturgical territory (or your optionally-established religious order). Step 5: ... Step 6: Profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1346615504' post='2477639'] Step 1: Become missionary priest. Step 2: Get assigned to a country in the middle east. Step 3: Be extremely successful. Optional step 3.5: Found religious order Step 4: After several decades or perhaps a century, through the process of organic development and authentic inculturation, the shemagh becomes approved locally as a liturgical vestment for Mass in your former liturgical territory (or your optionally-established religious order). Step 5: ... Step 6: Profit. [/quote] It's almost too perfect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Precisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1346617851' post='2477649'] Precisely. [/quote] Perhaps I can make a habit that is based off Middle Eastern clothing that includes the shemagh, much like Blessed Mother Teresa did with Indian clothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 That is entirely within the realm of possibility. Perhaps take some cues from Coptic Catholicism and Orthodoxy, and the Maronites, etc.. They have some culturally distinctive aspects. Perhaps after many many hundreds of years, even a millennium, your new middle eastern order will evolve into a sui juris Church. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1346620736' post='2477659'] That is entirely within the realm of possibility. Perhaps take some cues from Coptic Catholicism and Orthodoxy, and the Maronites, etc.. They have some culturally distinctive aspects. Perhaps after many many hundreds of years, even a millennium, your new middle eastern order will evolve into a sui juris Church. Lol. [/quote] Sui Juris Church? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1346620841' post='2477660'] Sui Juris Church? [/quote] Wiki (because it's simplest): Church documents such as the [i][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Canons_of_the_Eastern_Churches"]Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches[/url][/i] apply the Latin term [i]sui iuris[/i] to the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particular_Church"]particular Churches[/url] that together compose the Catholic Church (i.e., the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Church"]Roman Catholic Church[/url] and those in communion with her). By far the largest of these "sui iuris" or[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomy_(disambiguation)"]autonomous[/url] Churches is that known as the Latin Church or the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Rite"]Latin Rite[/url]. Over this particular Church the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope"]Pope[/url] exercises, as well as his papal authority, the authority that in other particular Churches belongs to a [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarch"]Patriarch[/url]. He has therefore been referred to also as Patriarch of the West.[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sui_juris#cite_note-0"][1][/url][/sup] The other particular Churches are called [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Catholic_Churches"]Eastern Catholic Churches[/url], each of which, if large enough, has its own patriarch or other chief hierarch, with authority over all the bishops of that particular Church or rite. The same term is applied also to missions that, though lacking enough clergy to be set up as apostolic prefectures, are for various reasons given autonomy, and thus are not part of any diocese, apostolic vicariate or apostolic prefecture. In 2004, there were eleven such missions: three in the Atlantic, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayman_Islands"]Cayman Islands[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_and_Caicos"]Turks and Caicos[/url], and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Helena"]Saint Helena[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascension_Island"]Ascension[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan_da_Cunha"]Tristan da Cunha[/url]; two in the Pacific, Funafuti ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvalu"]Tuvalu[/url]), and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokelau"]Tokelau[/url]; and six in central Asia, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan"]Afghanistan[/url], Baku ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijan"]Azerbaijan[/url]), [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrgyzstan"]Kyrgyzstan[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajikistan"]Tajikistan[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkmenistan"]Turkmenistan[/url], and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbekistan"]Uzbekistan[/url]. [b] [size=3][[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sui_iuris&action=edit§ion=4"]edit[/url]][/size]Examples of Catholic ecclesiastical use[/b] [list] [*][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_sui_iuris"]Mission sui iuris[/url] [*]"The [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Catholic_Churches"]Eastern Catholic Churches[/url] are not 'experimental' or 'provisional' communities; these are sui iuris Churches; One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic, with the firm canonical base of the [i]Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches[/i] promulgated by Pope John Paul II." [url="http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/2000/290007.shtml"][1][/url] [*]"The hierarchs of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Catholic_Metropolitan_Church_of_Pittsburgh"]Byzantine Metropolitan Church sui iuris of Pittsburgh[/url], in tile United States of America, gathered in assembly as the Council of Hierarchs of said Church, in conformity with the [i]Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches[/i], ..." [url="http://www.byzcath.org/news/1999/AEP19990928-1.html"][2][/url] [*]"It would likewise be helpful to prepare a [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catechism"]Catechetical[/url] Directory that would 'take into account the special character of the Eastern Churches, so that the biblical and liturgical emphasis as well as the traditions of each Church sui iuris in patrology, hagiography and even iconography are highlighted in conveying the catechesis' (CCEO, can. 621, §2)" [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II"]John Paul II[/url] [url="http://www.byzcath.org/news/LOR19981028.html"][3][/url] [*]"On behalf of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrgyzstan"]Kyrgyzstan[/url] Catholics I would like to express our gratitude to the Holy Father for his prayers and for all that he has done for us: ... and for the creation of the new 'missioni sui iuris' in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Asia"]Central Asia[/url], in a special way — for the trust placed on the 'Minima Societas Jesu', to which he entrusted the mission in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrgyzstan"]Kyrgyzstan[/url]." [url="http://www.zenit.org/english/asia/cong17.html"][4][/url] [*]"...[T]he rays originating in the one [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus"]Lord[/url], the sun of justice which illumines every man (cf. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_John"]Jn[/url] [url="http://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=50&ch=001&l=9"]1:9[/url]), ... received by each individual Church sui iuris, has value and infinite dynamism and constitutes a part of the universal heritage of the Church." "Instruction for Applying the Liturgical Prescriptions of the Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches", issued January 6, 1996 by the Congregation for the Eastern Churches [url="http://www.cin.org/docs/eastinst.html"][5][/url]. [/list] [b] [size=3][[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sui_iuris&action=edit§ion=5"]edit[/url]][/size][/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groo the Wanderer Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 4 words. dirka dirka mohammad jihad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dominicansoul Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 just don't wear it in an airport or on a plane or even when you are leaving the airport ... [size=3]or to a bank, or t[/size][size=2]he grocery store or[/size]... [size=1]or[/size] [size=1]...[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 Ladies and gentleman of my beloved pham, I just ordered my shemagh about ten minutes ago! I got it in tan/black, and it was less than fifteen dollars shipping and all! However, I do have terrible news that makes me feel like a terrible person. You see, all my life irony has been a staple-point. My current discernment, studying, the fact I stutter even though I love social interaction, etc, etc. I have taken this to mean that God loves humor and irony is his favorite part of humor, as is mine, which sure is convenient. I ordered my shemagh and looked at the arrival date of shipping. What is the arrival date, you ask? September 11th. My father, his friend and my sister find this terribly funny, and I'm sure Jesus is still having a chuckle as I type. Gr... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 [quote name='the171' timestamp='1346564281' post='2477520'] I don't think anyone is against you wearing the dang thing because of "affiliations with the Al Quaeda". Seriously, bro. [/quote] yeah, it's more like: you'll look like an idiot wearing one of these because you are neither an adult man, nor a soldier.[quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1346631296' post='2477701'] just don't wear it in an airport or on a plane or even when you are leaving the airport ... [size=3]or to a bank, or t[/size][size=2]he grocery store or[/size]... [size=1]or[/size] [size=1]...[/size] [/quote] or anywhere in public? yeah, i agree.[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1346632895' post='2477706'] Ladies and gentleman of my beloved pham, I just ordered my shemagh about ten minutes ago! I got it in tan/black, and it was less than fifteen dollars shipping and all! However, I do have terrible news that makes me feel like a terrible person. You see, all my life irony has been a staple-point. My current discernment, studying, the fact I stutter even though I love social interaction, etc, etc. I have taken this to mean that God loves humor and irony is his favorite part of humor, as is mine, which sure is convenient. I ordered my shemagh and looked at the arrival date of shipping. What is the arrival date, you ask? September 11th. My father, his friend and my sister find this terribly funny, and I'm sure Jesus is still having a chuckle as I type. Gr... [/quote] yeah, ha ha. flooping hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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