Cigar Or Pipe Smoking

[GeorgiiMichael]

[quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1345778332' post='2473294']
All irrelevant.

20+ years ago, insurance applications used to ask the applicant if they smoked one or more gcigarettes in the past 12 months. Now, the question is "tobacco use", which would encompass not just cigarettes, cigars, and pipes, but also snuff and chewing tobacco.
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And I'm still saying that most of us who smoke cigars and pipes probably wouldn't answer yes to that question because it minor recreational use really doesn't affect one's overall health and we don't think of ourselves as "users". Maybe it's technically perjury, but so is saying you weigh 10 lbs less than you do on your driver's license.

And the repercussions of each are approximately the same.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1345772922' post='2473233']
I hope youse all are prepared to pay more for your insurance premiums....
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"Possible relationships of death rates and other forms of tobacco use were
also investigated in the seven studies. The death rates for men smoking
less than 5 cigars a day are about the same as for non-smokers. For men
smoking more than 5 cigars daily, death rates are slightly higher. There
is some indication that these higher death rates occur primarily in men
who have been smoking more than 30 years and who inhale the smoke
some degree. The death rates for pipe smokers are little if at all higher
than for non-smokers, even for men who smoke 10 or more pipefuls a day
and for men who have smoked pipes more than 30 years. "

"Among the pipe smokers there were 28 percent who inhaled in the U.S.
study and 18 percent in the Canadian study. [b]The U.S. mortality ratios are [/b]
[b]0.8 for non-inhalers[/b] and 1.0 for inhalers; the Canadian data contain too few
deaths to allow a breakdown by inhalation. "

http://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/ps/retrieve/ResourceMetadata/NNBBMQ

What the bolded means is that pipe smokers who do not inhale the smoke have a mortality ratio of .8. A mortality ratio of 1 means that there is one death per expected death, i.e. average lifespan. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standardized_mortality_ratio) A ratio of less than 1 means that the lifespan is actually (gasp) [i]longer[/i] than expected. In other words, pipe smokers who do not inhale live longer, on average, than the typical non-smoker.

[Nihil Obstat]

Holy croutons, ten or more pipes per day? I didn't know anybody chained pipes. That would be... basically your entire day spent just smoking a pipe. Maybe some time to eat and for bathroom breaks.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1345782394' post='2473330']
Holy croutons, ten or more pipes per day? I didn't know anybody chained pipes. That would be... basically your entire day spent just smoking a pipe. Maybe some time to eat and for bathroom breaks.
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Same with five cigars a day. I've never met anybody who smokes that much.

[GeorgiiMichael]

I think the most I've smoked in a MONTH has been 10. Hot diggity that's nuts.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1345782435' post='2473331']
Same with five cigars a day. I've never met anybody who smokes that much.
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Well it takes dedication, I'll give them that.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='GeorgiiMichael' timestamp='1345782676' post='2473342']
I think the most I've smoked in a MONTH has been 10. Hot diggity that's nuts.
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Same. You'd have to have a buttload of pipes to be able to let them rest enough to smoke 10 bowls a day.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1345782794' post='2473345']
Same. You'd have to have a buttload of pipes to be able to let them rest enough to smoke 10 bowls a day.
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Hey, let's not get all gay here. Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe.

[CatholicCid]

I just hope none of you pipe smokers are Swedish: [url="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1052604/?tool=pubmed"]http://www.ncbi.nlm....04/?tool=pubmed[/url]

Edited August 24, 2012 by CatholicCid

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='CatholicCid' timestamp='1345783132' post='2473350']
I just hope none of you pipe smokers are Swedish: [url="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1052604/?tool=pubmed"]http://www.ncbi.nlm....04/?tool=pubmed[/url]
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Let's say everybody who smokes a pipe in the above poll smokes the least amount they can to be in the highest tier (2x a month). A 2 oz tin of tobacco lasts me about 20 bowls, I'd say, which comes out to .1 oz per bowl. That's 2.8 - call it 3 - grams per bowl. Two times a month is 6 grams a month. The smallest increment on the graphs of the data of that study were 5 grams [i]a day, [/i]or about three bowls. That's about 25 times as much as our hypothetical person would smoke in a month. Not to mention that most people said they don't even smoke that much.
If you do anything 25 times as much as a normal person does it, you're opening yourself up to health problems.

Edited August 24, 2012 by USAirwaysIHS

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='CatholicCid' timestamp='1345783132' post='2473350']
I just hope none of you pipe smokers are Swedish: [url="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1052604/?tool=pubmed"]http://www.ncbi.nlm....04/?tool=pubmed[/url]
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I am confused. Do these numbers imply that fully 27% of Swedes smoke pipes on a regular basis?

[arfink]

I don't want my precious Trisha to die of lung cancer. Nope.

[Papist]

After meeting Aloysius in person, I have an inclination to smoke a pipe.

[Amppax]

I smoke a pipe. Although compared to Master Airways, I am but a lowly novice. I need a new pipe actually. I'm thinking of making my own next time around, we'll see.

[CatholicCid]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1345783908' post='2473361']
I am confused. Do these numbers imply that fully 27% of Swedes smoke pipes on a regular basis?
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No, that means that 27% of their sample size (~25,000 Swedes) did.