Jesus Is On The Floor

[mortify]

Take on the tongue

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVjVNb4bSnU&feature=plcp[/media]

[Lil Red]

The Church allows for communion on the hand, which can be done reverently. Do not disallow what the Church allows.

[cmotherofpirl]

I have seen Jesus on the floor because a priest missed the person's mouth, so what is your point?

I have seen Jesus on the floor because a priest missed the person's mouth, so what is your point?

[mortify]

Peace,

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1345689079' post='2472344']
The Church allows for communion on the hand, which can be done reverently. Do not disallow what the Church allows.
[/quote]

The video isn't disallowing communion on the hand but it is making an important and oft forgotten point. The [i]whole[/i] substance of the Bread is transformed into the Body of our Lord and this means that even[i] small [/i]particles are Jesus! Whichever way one chooses to receive our Lord, extraordinary precatiouns should be taken that He is not dealt disrespectfully and left on the ground. I agree with the video that the[i] best [/i]way to do this is to follow the old and long standing tradition of receiving on the tongue. Doing this while genuflecting is also a great sign of reverence to our Lord.

Just my 2 cents

[mortify]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1345690780' post='2472364']
I have seen Jesus on the floor because a priest missed the person's mouth, so what is your point?
[/quote]

Where was the altar boy with his patten?

[cmotherofpirl]

not paying attention as usual.

[mortify]

Well, at least you have patten-wielding altar boys

[cmotherofpirl]

nope we don't. But I do remember it happening at the old Mass, more than once.

[mortify]

This was the best picture I could find, but usually you have at least three measures of defense (1) receiving on tongue (2) patten and (3) alter rail / clothe. If the Eucharist hits the floor someone needs to get fired! But in all seriousness doesn't the older form simply strike you as being more theologically intune with what we actually believe? (or ought to believe)

[img]http://www.catholicnews-tt.net/joomla/images/imgs/mar2010/traditionallatinmass.jpg[/img]

[b][i]Our grandparents knew what they were doing...[/i][/b]

[img]http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll79/kking8888/communion.jpg[/img]

[i][b]If it's good why not continue?[/b][/i]

Edited August 23, 2012 by mortify

[Nihil Obstat]

I hope that the indult allowing Communion in the hand is removed at some point in the foreseeable future. It would take catechesis and lots of patience, but I think it would bear much good fruit.

[Anomaly]

[quote name='mortify' timestamp='1345691215' post='2472370']
Well, at least you have patten-wielding altar boys
[/quote]It's 'paten', not patten. Paten is table, patten is shoe.

I was an alcolyte back when masses were in Latin and before reception was in the hand. Despite a paten wielding altar boy, people would move they head back, move their tongue, have the host catch on their lip or tooth and flick off and miss the paten. It happened. Come up with a different argument.

[mortify]

[quote name='Anomaly' timestamp='1345694484' post='2472399']
It's 'paten', not patten. Paten is table, patten is shoe.[/quote]

Thanks for pointing that out, spelling is not my forte and English is a second language, I make a lot of errors!

[quote]I was an alcolyte back when masses were in Latin and before reception was in the hand. Despite a paten wielding altar boy, people would move they head back, move their tongue, have the host catch on their lip or tooth and flick off and miss the paten. It happened. Come up with a different argument.
[/quote]

I'm sure it happened but relative to the alternative receiving on the tongue is still superior

[franciscanheart]

[quote name='mortify' timestamp='1345694834' post='2472404']
I'm sure it happened but relative to the alternative receiving on the tongue is still superior
[/quote]
In your opinion.

[Adrestia]

I actually prefer receiving on my tongue, but I'm a scientist - so I have to admit that a hand is an easier target to hit than a partially opened mouth with a partially extruded tongue. I've had to use my hands to catch the Most Blessed Sacrament more than once - even when it was a priest trying to place the Eucharist in my mouth.

[mortify]

[quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1345694969' post='2472408']
In your opinion.
[/quote]

Sure but it's not a baseless opinion. The old school way is more effecient because it has fewer steps and therefore is less likely to leave Christ on the floor. As the video points out particles fall off easily from the host and with today's laxity in norms it's not hard to image hundreds of consecrated pieces of our Lord on the ground. Our forebears took a lot of precautions to ensure no part of our Lord was wasted or ended up on the ground. Despite this I'm sure instances can be found where the Eucharist was accidentally mishandled, but again if we compare it what we see today can there really be any comparison?

[i][b]To receive from the Holy Father one must do so on the tongue and kneeling...[/b][/i]

[i][b][img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tnXBKvivMgs/T-nHSMh61II/AAAAAAAACqw/Cpxes94zsZA/s1600/Pope+administers+HC+on+the+tongue+to+kneeling+woman.jpg[/img][/b][/i]

[i][b]No worries Father, some of us get the point [/b][/i]

Edited August 23, 2012 by mortify