EmilyAnn Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1345744669' post='2472759'] Not yet. Hold Mother on standby. [/quote] So heard from them yet? Yes, I'm going to ask this constantly until you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted August 23, 2012 Author Share Posted August 23, 2012 [quote name='EmilyAnn' timestamp='1345759080' post='2473019'] So heard from them yet? Yes, I'm going to ask this constantly until you have. [/quote] Not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I'll just have to go to Quarr myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Also, since we were talking about CAF, there's this one girl I know there who keeps changing religion. She comes back to Catholicism every time, but never sticks. At the moment she's decided she's a Muslim and it's the longest she's ever stayed with one thing. I'm worried for her soul. I feel responsible for her somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted August 23, 2012 Author Share Posted August 23, 2012 [quote name='EmilyAnn' timestamp='1345759287' post='2473025'] I'll just have to go to Quarr myself. [/quote] Well, not only are you apparently needed to but you also want to, so it is two birds with one stone. [quote name='EmilyAnn' timestamp='1345759562' post='2473036'] Also, since we were talking about CAF, there's this one girl I know there who keeps changing religion. She comes back to Catholicism every time, but never sticks. At the moment she's decided she's a Muslim and it's the longest she's ever stayed with one thing. I'm worried for her soul. I feel responsible for her somehow. [/quote] That is very unfortunate. I will pray for her. But know that you are not responsible. So long as you tried to teach her Catholicism you did all you could do. It reminds me of Dr. Ray Guarendi on the subject. He is a famous Catholic family therapist and he is sometimes asked by parents what they should do since their children left the faith, and he says not even Jesus was able to convert most of the people, so why do we expect ourselves to do better than him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1345759873' post='2473041'] That is very unfortunate. I will pray for her. But know that you are not responsible. So long as you tried to teach her Catholicism you did all you could do. It reminds me of Dr. Ray Guarendi on the subject. He is a famous Catholic family therapist and he is sometimes asked by parents what they should do since their children left the faith, and he says not even Jesus was able to convert most of the people, so why do we expect ourselves to do better than him? [/quote] I try, I really do. But it doesn't get through, she's been totally absorbed by these lies. She even wants to move to a more Islamic country and I fear so much that if she does that her soul will be lost forever. And in her Catholic moments she's shown signs of a possible religious vocation - obviously that is between her and God and I can't possibly know that but it makes me ever more worried for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted August 23, 2012 Author Share Posted August 23, 2012 [quote name='EmilyAnn' timestamp='1345760128' post='2473049'] I try, I really do. But it doesn't get through, she's been totally absorbed by these lies. She even wants to move to a more Islamic country and I fear so much that if she does that her soul will be lost forever. And in her Catholic moments she's shown signs of a possible religious vocation - obviously that is between her and God and I can't possibly know that but it makes me ever more worried for her. [/quote] It is especially sad about the Religious vocation thing. I will pray that she has an open mind and converts back. Moving to an Islamic country is very dangerous, both for her soul and her life. I definitely hope she does not make this mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1345760367' post='2473058'] It is especially sad about the Religious vocation thing. I will pray that she has an open mind and converts back. Moving to an Islamic country is very dangerous, both for her soul and her life. I definitely hope she does not make this mistake. [/quote] I can only pray for her. Not to mention my other little ward - he's a little bit older than you, wants to be Catholic but his family are dead against it. Plus he has some super bad friends. At least he wants to be Catholic so some of what I say gets through to him, though I'm not sure how much sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted August 23, 2012 Author Share Posted August 23, 2012 [quote name='EmilyAnn' timestamp='1345760535' post='2473063'] I can only pray for her. Not to mention my other little ward - he's a little bit older than you, wants to be Catholic but his family are dead against it. Plus he has some super bad friends. At least he wants to be Catholic so some of what I say gets through to him, though I'm not sure how much sometimes. [/quote] Is his name perhaps Steve? Because if so I have been beating my head against the wall on that case for a year now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1345760656' post='2473067'] Is his name perhaps Steve? Because if so I have been beating my head against the wall on that case for a year now. [/quote] Yup. I know the feeling. He drives me crazy. But again, I feel like I have to help him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted August 23, 2012 Author Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) [quote name='EmilyAnn' timestamp='1345760704' post='2473069'] Yup. I know the feeling. He drives me crazy. But again, I feel like I have to help him! [/quote] I do too. I have tried so hard, but it is to no avail. Every time I offer him advice he ignores me. He said he kept falling into his addiction (I will keep it discreet for his sake, but you know what I mean) and I asked him where it was that he was falling into temptation, and he said with his friends, so I told him to ditch them, and he won't do it! He asks for my advice and he simply ignores it because it is not the answer he wants! It gets so frustrating at times, but I always find it in myself to try and help him, so I know what you mean. Do you perhaps go on abcz chat? Edited August 23, 2012 by FuturePriest387 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1345760911' post='2473076'] I do too. I have tried so hard, but it is to no avail. Every time I offer him advice he ignores me. He said he kept falling into his addiction (I will keep it discreet for his sake, but you know what I mean) and I asked him where it was that he was falling into temptation, and he said with his friends, so I told him to ditch them, and he won't do it! He asks for my advice and he simply ignores it because it is not the answer he wants! It gets so frustrating at times, but I always find it in myself to try and help him, so I know what you mean. Do you perhaps go on abcz chat? [/quote] Yeah I know what you mean. I told him to ditch his friends recently too. He argued with me for a bit but I stuck with my case. Again, I'm not sure how much of what I said got through to him. He's fairly immature on some level I think, so hopefully as he gets older he'll see that we've been right all along. No, what is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted August 23, 2012 Author Share Posted August 23, 2012 [quote name='EmilyAnn' timestamp='1345761207' post='2473081'] Yeah I know what you mean. I told him to ditch his friends recently too. He argued with me for a bit but I stuck with my case. Again, I'm not sure how much of what I said got through to him. He's fairly immature on some level I think, so hopefully as he gets older he'll see that we've been right all along. No, what is that? [/quote] He argued with me as well, but there is no getting through to him. He likes his friends so he will stay with them. I think on some level he doesn't want to quit, and that is why he won't listen to us. And I think you may be right on the immaturity thing. Sometimes on the chat I mentioned he says sexual things just to get banned. I haven't seen him do this for a while, but I haven't been on there for almost two weeks until today (Even though I'm a moderator). abcz chat. It is a Catholic chat that I am a moderator on, but we never talk about Catholicism. Steve goes on there, as I said above, and it would be great if you would like to strike up a conversation about discernment or Catholicism in general. Here is the link: http://xat.com/abcz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Oh dear. I think poor Steve is beyond either of our help right now. Edited August 23, 2012 by EmilyAnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 [quote name='EmilyAnn' timestamp='1345761636' post='2473088'] Oh dear. I think poor Steve is beyond either of our help right now. [/quote] What do you mean by that? Concerning the sexual references, you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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