Putting On Your Sunday Best

[EmilyAnn]

[quote name='cmariadiaz' timestamp='1345770062' post='2473196']
I hope the rest of the women don't mind my saying this as a representative of all:

FP --- [color=#ff0000][size=6]SHUT UP[/size][/color]!

I do mean that in the most loving way possible ...
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You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day.

[cmaD2006]

[quote name='EmilyAnn' timestamp='1345770451' post='2473201']
You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day.
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... Remember me manana lol

[PhuturePriest]

[quote name='cmariadiaz' timestamp='1345770062' post='2473196']
I hope the rest of the women don't mind my saying this as a representative of all:

FP --- [color=#ff0000][size=6]SHUT UP[/size][/color]!

I do mean that in the most loving way possible ...
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I hope you realize I was actually making fun of how easy it is for men to get dressed compared to women and yet we still somehow complain.

[Ice_nine]

I just have gotten used to the idea that people are going to make judgements about you based on superficial croutons in general. It's human nature. It's our thing.

To me, this is entirely a frivolous distraction to preparing for Mass. People may see attire as an important part of this preparation. Good for them. They choose to honor God via dressing within a prescribed social code that says these clothes correspond to reverence. That's great, really. I wouldn't encourage them to do otherwise. I would encourage them however to not make sweeping generalizations about the motives of "casual dressers" or what have you, but whatever floats your boat.

In terms of dress, I choose to honor God by making sure everything is covered up (I even wear a tam as a head covering, which is not the same as a mantilla I know, but I think the spirit behind it is the same idk). I think there's a key difference in that most people are working from this idea that certain attire in socially encoded for reverence, or that attire inherently communicates something. I think that the "language" of attire if you will, is not as fixed and clear-cut as people would like to believe, so I work from a few basic principles instead to get by (i.e. make sure my clothes aren't showing off my super hot bod etc) because navigating these social codes of dress is a little anxiety-inducing for me. May seem ridiculous to say, but to drive the point home, I'm 22 and haven't chosen any formal dress for myself when such events arise. I basically rely on mother and sister to pick something out for me


I just think people will pass judgement in general, often inaccurately. It's fine. I do it to even as I try not to. It's something that used to discourage me but lately my focus has been shifting so . . .


there's my 2.5 cents anyhow. Enjoy.

[Groo the Wanderer]

[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1345767371' post='2473150']
You women don't know what us men go through to look beautiful. We have to button our darned shirts up [i]every day. [/i]
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wah! poor priests have 33 buttons to do every day on their cassocks...


those who are super-amesome anyway

[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m__Nq2CVJbc/T07k_mWIn6I/AAAAAAAAAGs/_b7IwShpWRc/s1600/FrTony1844.jpg[/img]

[Ice_nine]

When I saw groo was the last person to post here, I thought it would be a half-botched argument about how we should invest in llama farms because their wool makes the most holy and modest clothes.

So disappoint.

[emmaberry]

[quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1345776768' post='2473272']
I just have gotten used to the idea that people are going to make judgements about you based on superficial croutons in general. It's human nature. It's our thing.

To me, this is entirely a frivolous distraction to preparing for Mass. People may see attire as an important part of this preparation. Good for them. They choose to honor God via dressing within a prescribed social code that says these clothes correspond to reverence. That's great, really. I wouldn't encourage them to do otherwise. I would encourage them however to not make sweeping generalizations about the motives of "casual dressers" or what have you, but whatever floats your boat.

In terms of dress, I choose to honor God by making sure everything is covered up (I even wear a tam as a head covering, which is not the same as a mantilla I know, but I think the spirit behind it is the same idk). I think there's a key difference in that most people are working from this idea that certain attire in socially encoded for reverence, or that attire inherently communicates something. I think that the "language" of attire if you will, is not as fixed and clear-cut as people would like to believe, so I work from a few basic principles instead to get by (i.e. make sure my clothes aren't showing off my super hot bod etc) because navigating these social codes of dress is a little anxiety-inducing for me. May seem ridiculous to say, but to drive the point home, I'm 22 and haven't chosen any formal dress for myself when such events arise. I basically rely on mother and sister to pick something out for me
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Just the other day, a woman was crying as she came out of church with her little boys (large family). She disclosed that the girl in front of her was wearing booty shorts and that her sons stared at that girls legs the entire Mass. This is not okay. There are standards of modesty when approaching the Eucharist-not for the individual wearing the clothes, but for others (especially guys) that want to focus on Jesus and not be distracted by skin all throughout Mass.

I think the dress codes in Rome are inconvenient, to say the least, but they set a standard of modesty. I know a pastor who refuses to put up a dress code sign, because he thinks some people won't want to follow it and won't come to Mass. This is a tough dilemma, but I still appreciate the fact that in Rome, the Mass is represented as a privilege (it is!)...and you must be adequately covered to take part in this privilege. In the US, we have been very 'Protestantized' in the sense that we want to pander to people to get them to come to Mass and other Catholic Sacraments. Like I said, it is a hard balance.

I will just never forget that poor crying Mother with her little boys, especially because I have a brother that age. I am sure that if I were to have kids in the future, I would feel that much more strongly about the modesty issue.

Edited August 24, 2012 by emmaberry

[Nihil Obstat]

[i]This is my 21 000th post.[/i]


I forgot to take my hat off on the way into St. Peter's Basilica, but one of the guards stopped me and reminded me.
There is nothing wrong with my hat, objectively. But it does not belong in a church.

[img]http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv189/Nihil_Obstat/Rome/IMG_0978.jpg[/img]


Ten points if you can tell me where this next picture was taken:

[img]http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv189/Nihil_Obstat/Rome/IMG_1396.jpg[/img]

Edited August 24, 2012 by Nihil Obstat

[Norseman82]

[quote name='emmaberry' timestamp='1345779405' post='2473307']
Just the other day, a woman was crying as she came out of church with her little boys (large family). She disclosed that the girl in front of her was wearing booty shorts and that her sons stared at that girls legs the entire Mass. This is not okay. There are standards of modesty when approaching the Eucharist-not for the individual wearing the clothes, but for others (especially guys) that want to focus on Jesus and not be distracted by skin all throughout Mass.
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I'm sure that if Yia-Yia was there she would have had something to tell the girl in front of her:

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We3MxsWdqOc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We3MxsWdqOc[/url]

[cmaD2006]

[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1345770994' post='2473208']
I hope you realize I was actually making fun of how easy it is for men to get dressed compared to women and yet we still somehow complain.
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FP anytime you see me stick out my tongue at you or smile you can safely assume that I didn't take you toooo, I mean toooo seriously. If I did you would have gotten the

[PhuturePriest]

[quote name='cmariadiaz' timestamp='1345866887' post='2473930']
FP anytime you see me stick out my tongue at you or smile you can safely assume that I didn't take you toooo, I mean toooo seriously. If I did you would have gotten the
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I figured you were joking. I'm just slightly skittish when doing those kinds of jokes.

[PhuturePriest]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1345777851' post='2473286']
wah! poor priests have 33 buttons to do every day on their cassocks...


those who are super-amesome anyway

[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m__Nq2CVJbc/T07k_mWIn6I/AAAAAAAAAGs/_b7IwShpWRc/s1600/FrTony1844.jpg[/img]
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The cane is a nice touch. It gives him an extra sense of [i]a[/i]wesome.

[To Jesus Through Mary]

[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1345867458' post='2473936']
The cane is a nice touch. It gives him an extra sense of [i]a[/i]wesome.
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I adds [i]something[/i], that is for sure. But I don't think it is a sense of amesome. (Unless of course he legit needs a cane lol!)

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1345866358' post='2473922']
I'm sure that if Yia-Yia was there she would have had something to tell the girl in front of her:

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I love the commercial where she tells the group of bikini-clad girls, "this looks like pornography"

[NonNovi]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1345777851' post='2473286']
wah! poor priests have 33 buttons to do every day on their cassocks...


those who are super-amesome anyway
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Many cassocks cheat nowadays with 33 fake buttons and a zipper or a lot less buttons underneath. My cassock has 14 buttons, but I would'n mind to button up 33. It gives you the time to think about why you wear a cassock again.