Taize?

[Socrates]

What the hell is a Taize?

[MIKolbe]

i'm gonna say it's a tea

[FutureCarmeliteClaire]

[quote name='the171' timestamp='1344903665' post='2467223']
What is taize?
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[quote name='Not The Philosopher' timestamp='1344904148' post='2467225']
What this [s]fellow[/s] [color=#FF0000]lady[/color] said. As a freshly minted Catholic, I've noticed the name here and there,
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[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1344905047' post='2467234']
What the hell is a Taize?
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If I am thinking the same thing as sixpence, it's a kind of prayer (similar to the Divine Office), but if I'm not mistaken, it has protestant roots and is relatively new. I could be wrong about the Protestant root thing, though, I'm incredibly tired.

Oh, and my opinion is no taize for Mass. I'm really a polyphony and chat kind of girl.

[Spem in alium]

I have only listened to one Taize song, and I liked it. It helped me pray. But in Mass, it might not work as well.


[quote name='FutureCarmeliteClaire' timestamp='1344905687' post='2467240']
I'm really a polyphony and chat kind of girl.
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Ditto! Motets ftw!

[Not The Philosopher]

[quote name='the171' timestamp='1344904473' post='2467227']
Just so you know this now and not later, I am a lady.
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My apologies.

(Haven't figured out how to edit posts yet...)

[the171]

[quote name='Not The Philosopher' timestamp='1344908133' post='2467270']
My apologies.

(Haven't figured out how to edit posts yet...)
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it's fine. My picture was and my name is rather masculine. LOL

Just don't screw up again or you'll choke on a discipline.

[MissScripture]

[quote name='Not The Philosopher' timestamp='1344908133' post='2467270']
My apologies.

(Haven't figured out how to edit posts yet...)
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There is a time limit in which to edit posts. You probably are out of time. If you are able to, there is an edit button at the bottom right of your post.

[the171]

This is a discipline. LOL

[img]http://www.scp-inc.org/publications/journals/J2902/Images/cord_like_whip.JPG[/img]

[FutureCarmeliteClaire]

[quote name='the171' timestamp='1344910499' post='2467285']
This is a discipline. LOL

[img]http://www.scp-inc.org/publications/journals/J2902/Images/cord_like_whip.JPG[/img]
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That is scary. LOL

[Luigi]

Taize (pronounce Tay-ZAY) is a town in the Burgundy region of France. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiz%C3%A9_Community"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiz%C3%A9_Community[/url]

It hosts an ecumenical monastic group.

A particular style of music evolved there. "[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]The community, though Western European in origin, has sought to include people and traditions worldwide. They have sought to demonstrate this in the music and prayers where songs are sung in many languages, and have included [/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chants"]chants[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] and [/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icons"]icons[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] from the[/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox"]Eastern Orthodox[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] tradition. The music emphasizes simple phrases, usually lines from [/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalms"]Psalms[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] or other pieces of [/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripture"]Scripture[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3], repeated and sometimes also sung in canon.[/size][/font][/color][sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiz%C3%A9_Community#cite_note-TZMusic-10"][11][/url][/sup][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] Earlier Taizé community music was conceived and composed by [/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Berthier"]Jacques Berthier[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3].[/size][/font][/color][sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiz%C3%A9_Community#cite_note-denver-11"][12][/url][/sup][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] Later[/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Gelineau"]Joseph Gelineau[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] became a major contributor to the music.[/size][/font][/color][sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiz%C3%A9_Community#cite_note-denver-11"][12][/url]"[/sup]

[Amppax]

Here's a good example of it. Not sure what the heck is in the picture, but its a good example of the music.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2o27qpvfUc&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2o27qpvfUc&feature=related[/url]

[cappie]

I believe that Taizé worship is a service that fills a place in the liturgical life of a congregation, which otherwise can be wordy. We need the evocative, the haunting, and the beautiful.

[Papist]

[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1344898676' post='2467170']
From my what I have experienced, the songs are always very repetitive, but it is always at least a whole sentence (I think "centering prayer" might be a single word/phrase, but I'm not sure). It IS meditative, but kind of reminds me more of the repetition in praying the rosary or the divine mercy chaplet and less like a "mantra" precisely? I dunno if that made sense...
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My experience was not through song, but with quiet repetitive phrases facilitated by a nun. The whole experience stunk of new age poo-poo. It probably is not a fair assessment of taize prayer b/c this nun was pretty much dissenting in her beliefs.

[filius_angelorum]

I like some taize music outside of Mass, but within Mass it seems to me to emphasize the personal/devotional aspect of Mass to the exclusion of the liturgical/devotional. However, some of the songs seem to me to follow the modern trend of making something incredibly complex sound simple and humble, which baffles community participation, rather than making something simple and humble sound complex.

[morostheos]

Also, [url="http://www.catholicculture.org/news/features/index.cfm?recnum=41354"]the pope gave the Taize community an apostolic blessing in 2005[/url]

[quote][color=#000000][font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif][size=4]The Vatican has made public a message from Pope Benedict XVI to members of the Taize community, who will gather in Milan next week for the first meeting of the ecumenical community since the death of its founder, Brother Roger Schultz.[/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif][size=4]
About 50,000 young people are expected to gather in Milan on December 28. They will receive an unfinished letter written by Brother Roger shortly before he was killed, in August. They will also receive a message from the Pope, saying in part: "May the example of the founder of Taize and the tireless testimony of Pope John Paul II in favor of dialogue and peace encourage you to be peacemakers in your turn."[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif][size=4]The Pope's message praises the legacy of Brother Roger and encourages the Taize community to continued building "a spirit of brotherhood and peace." That spirit is particularly necessary today, he writes, in a world "made fragile by many situations of tension, and in our developed societies marked by new forms of violence that affect the young in particular."[/size][/font][/color][/quote]