Franciscan Sisters Minor Now Poor Clares

[Chiara Francesco]

The PCCs in Cleveland also have have the two choirs. Their choir mental prayer/adoration and the Divine Office is like Rockford, behind the chapel altar and exposed Bl.Sacrament and their mass choir is on the right side with a grille.

[url="http://www.poorclarecolettines-cleveland.org/"]http://www.poorclarecolettines-cleveland.org[/url]


[quote name='Chiquitunga' timestamp='1345350231' post='2470017']
Yes, the majority of the monasteries (Carmel and PCs) I know of have it this way.

Palos Park is just like Roswell, [url="http://www.chicagopoorclares.org/"]http://www.chicagopoorclares.org/[/url] [url="http://www.rockfordpoorclares.org/"]Rockford[/url] and [url="http://poorclaresjoliet.org/"]Minooka[/url] both have two choirs like these Poor Sisters of St. Clare .. one on the side for Holy Mass, and one directly behind the altar for the Divine Office (and adoration, etc.) St. Louis has one choir on the side for everything.

[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PCj-31hPIyw/T_NHOON7ZPI/AAAAAAAAA1M/3YgWzA2x-jY/s1600/rockford_cloister_summercamp2012.jpg[/img]

Rockford (nuns' choir on left side of altar)

[img]http://www.rockfordpoorclares.org/images/page-2_10.jpg[/img]

Rockford, Nuns' choir for Mass

[img]http://web.archive.org/web/20051217175104im_/http://poorclare.org/rockford/images/prayer2.jpg[/img] <-- arg picture won't work, it's [url="http://web.archive.org/web/20050226093742/http://poorclare.org/rockford/prayer2.html"]here[/url]

Nuns' choir for the Office and adoration, got the picture from their [url="http://web.archive.org/web/20050217235219/http://poorclare.org/rockford/"]old site[/url] which I like better. Sometimes they have adoration for both the nuns and the public and put a monstrance up on the altar which both sides can see. Other times like here they have private adoration in the nuns' choir.

I heard once that there was some rule, not sure where we'd find it (Sr. Mary Catharine! ) that didn't allow cloistered nuns to see the Mass. But then it was allowed, and so cloisters that had the choir directly behind the altar often remodeled a side room, often a small sacristy, where the nuns could gather for Mass. The cloisters which had the choir on the side would just open the curtain for Mass. I heard this actually from the Novice Mistress in Valpariaso regarding why Elysburg had two choirs.. different than just the side one in Valparaiso. The two choirs in Elysburg, [url="https://picasaweb.google.com/112954809546652959393/CarmelOfJesusMaryJosephElysburgPA#5409364467727717874"]here[/url] [edit: Bishop Rhoades presided at that enclosure ceremony too :)] & [url="https://picasaweb.google.com/112954809546652959393/CarmelOfJesusMaryJosephElysburgPA#5409394410723802050"]here[/url].

And I have noticed that all the US Spanish Carmels (besides Elysburg, which was originally French) have just the one side choir, whereas a number of the French ones have it behind the altar and on the side now.. though I can think of a number of exceptions to that, like Arlington as Emma described here, or Erie.. Rochester, Lake Elmo.
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[JMJ/M&M]

Has anyone here on Phatmass discerned with the Poor Sisters of St. Clare, visited them? They don`t have a telephone or use internet. Snail mail takes so long...

[Pax_et bonum]

[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1345270088' post='2469609']
Those slideshows are amesome! Do you know if the Friars will ever get to visit them? I know at least a few have to in order to administer the Sacraments and such, but will it just be a select few or will every Friar at some point get to meet all of them?
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I was chatting with some of the brothers last Sunday at a diocesan event, and they mentioned that they visit in the parlor on major feast days--including Franciscan ones so it's more often then you might think.

[quote name='JMJ/M&M' timestamp='1353858928' post='2516317']
Has anyone here on Phatmass discerned with the Poor Sisters of St. Clare, visited them? They don`t have a telephone or use internet. Snail mail takes so long...
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I'm currently in the application process, though it's paused at the moment as I try to deal with my parents' opposition. They're usually pretty good about writing back within a few days after they get my letter, so I usually hear back withing a week or two after I send my letter which isn't too long. It cultivates patience. And instead of checking your email every few hours, you know you can't expect a letter for at least a week, and mail only runs once a day. So I kinda like snail mail